Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/4/24 at 09:20 AM |
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YouTube fakery
It’s interesting, well to me anyway. Looking at how Youtube videos are made and what tools people are using, I’m beginning to understand what I have
been seeing for a long time and was puzzled about.
People seemingly making all sorts of random videos about things they clearly know nothing about, often giving really bad advice, repeating the same
headline subjects as many others that week with scripts that are almost generic. There’s also the “This new engine will kill Tesla!” type of AI
crafted BS production that I usually block without even watching.
I had no idea there were so many AI script generators that not only show you what topics are trending but also write the script for you, pick the
video’s and do the voice over. It all seems amazingly fake, which it is and well worthless rubbish, a bit like a trashy newspaper (fill in which one
springs to mind).
There are a few science channels I subscribe to and have previously marveled at how they could manage to post a new video literally everyday but now I
understand how and why the topics were so random but common. So has it spoiled my viewing? Well yes definitely tbh, it seems they are just chasing
views and income over genuine content. I suppose this is what you get when money is involved…
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Slimy38
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| posted on 12/4/24 at 10:49 AM |
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I have to agree, it's really difficult to find genuine content nowadays. It's even worse with their 'shorts', I absolutely hate
TikTok with a passion but Youtube have obviously caught on with how lucrative it is.
On the other end of the scale are the poor Youtubers who have something genuine to say but just get lost in the mix. There's one I was watching
until recently, where he's aiming to build a 200mph DIY car (https://www.youtube.com/@Lost13mm). He was hoping for a bit of funding from ads or
Patreon. I found his videos to be very easy to watch, no horrible background music but including really interesting discussions on why he was doing
certain things. He's had to abandon the work because it was taking him longer to process the videos than the actual build work, and he
wasn't getting anything as a reward.
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 12/4/24 at 11:51 AM |
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Exactly, I do have to consider if its even worth while spending hours editing videos only to be totally buried under millions of cretinous mass
produced fake AI drivel. Its a shame the platform has been spoilt this way but that seems the way things are going over many platforms.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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myke pocock
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| posted on 12/4/24 at 04:43 PM |
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What worries me, and I cant see a way to change it, is the number of "How To Do" Videos that are down right dangerous. As a furniture maker
and wood machinist amongst other things it really scares me that people are posting dangerous videos that the man in the street will think are
acceptable and then the comments back up the technique shown. I saw something the other day regarding the use of angle grinders and a comment saying
along the lines that he didn't know of anyone who didn't remove the guard. I have seen saw benches being used with no guarding at all and
comments along the lines of "I have never used a riving knife or crown guard and have been wood machining for x number of years". Do these
idiots not appreciate the danger they could be causing for the amateur? OK, I will get of my soap box now!!!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/4/24 at 05:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
What worries me, and I cant see a way to change it, is the number of "How To Do" Videos that are down right dangerous. As a furniture maker
and wood machinist amongst other things it really scares me that people are posting dangerous videos that the man in the street will think are
acceptable and then the comments back up the technique shown. I saw something the other day regarding the use of angle grinders and a comment saying
along the lines that he didn't know of anyone who didn't remove the guard. I have seen saw benches being used with no guarding at all and
comments along the lines of "I have never used a riving knife or crown guard and have been wood machining for x number of years". Do these
idiots not appreciate the danger they could be causing for the amateur? OK, I will get of my soap box now!!!!
If I see something blatantly dangerous in a video like that I immediately stop watching it as, if they can't get the basics right, then the rest
of their info is totally suspect.
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 16/4/24 at 01:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
It’s interesting, well to me anyway. Looking at how Youtube videos are made and what tools people are using, I’m beginning to understand what I have
been seeing for a long time and was puzzled about.
People seemingly making all sorts of random videos about things they clearly know nothing about, often giving really bad advice, repeating the same
headline subjects as many others that week with scripts that are almost generic. There’s also the “This new engine will kill Tesla!” type of AI
crafted BS production that I usually block without even watching.
I had no idea there were so many AI script generators that not only show you what topics are trending but also write the script for you, pick the
video’s and do the voice over. It all seems amazingly fake, which it is and well worthless rubbish, a bit like a trashy newspaper (fill in which one
springs to mind).
There are a few science channels I subscribe to and have previously marveled at how they could manage to post a new video literally everyday but now I
understand how and why the topics were so random but common. So has it spoiled my viewing? Well yes definitely tbh, it seems they are just chasing
views and income over genuine content. I suppose this is what you get when money is involved…
have a read of this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/11/users-advertisers-we-are-all-trapped-in-the-enshittification-of-the-internet
Should give you an idea of where we are going...
Dan
[Edited on 16/4/24 by Bluemoon]
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Rod Ends
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 posted on 16/4/24 at 03:48 PM |
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Just ignore videos with clickbait titles:
OMG!!!
YOU WON'T BELIEVE!!!
or shows a picture of someone with their mouth open and boggle-eyes.
I've recently been watching Allen Millyard motorcycle engine videos in which he builds:
a 4 cylinder engine from two 3 cylinder engines,
a 6 cylinder engine from two 4 cylinder engines,
a V8 engine from two 4 cylinder engines,
and a V12 engine from two 6 cylinder engines.
All built in a modest home workshop.
https://www.youtube.com/@AllenMillyard/videos
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Slimy38
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| posted on 16/4/24 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by myke pocock
I saw something the other day regarding the use of angle grinders and a comment saying along the lines that he didn't know of anyone who
didn't remove the guard.
Anything that involves an angle grinder being used in a way other than intended, with insufficient PPE, I immediately downvote and turn off. While I
can appreciate the ingenuity of using a tool powered lathe or sanding belt, why on earth do they use an angle grinder as a source of power? A drill
would do the same job and be much safer.
Oh, and don't even get me started on those 'chainsaw' angle grinder discs. Who thought those instruments of death and injury had any
place on this planet?!! Thankfully there is a little bit of sanity left;
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-safety-alert-issued-for-angle-grinder-chainsaw-disc-attachment
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craig1410
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| posted on 16/4/24 at 09:48 PM |
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Yeah, click-bait videos do indeed exist but I seem to have developed an ability to filter them out in a similar way to how I filter out broadcast TV
adverts. I also have an ad blocker which works with YouTube because I don't understand how anyone can use YouTube without either an ad blocker or
a Premium subscription.
But, since I have the above sorted, YouTube is my number one source of new knowledge and general entertainment. I subscribe to around 60 channels and
never have a shortage of great content to watch.
Here's a random example from earlier this evening where my wife and I watched this video of a plasterer starting a full refurb of his bathroom.
The context is that we're about to do the same thing but the wider context is that I found this guy's channel because I was looking for tips
on how to skim coat my newly plasterboarded walls in my garage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkCacZR1PsE
Now, tell me that this guy isn't actually pretty talented, even while outside his field of expertise. And also tell me that he isn't
entertaining at the same time. My wife was chuckling along the whole time while appreciating many of the ideas, and complexity at the same time. I
think I make things look too easy sometimes! 
On more of a car theme, how about this one! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AndH7Xm3ds0
I think it does take some time to teach YT what you like and dislike but once you do that they I personally find an endless stream of really good
content. YMMV I guess.
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James
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| posted on 31/10/24 at 10:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Slimy38
I have to agree, it's really difficult to find genuine content nowadays. It's even worse with their 'shorts', I absolutely hate
TikTok with a passion but Youtube have obviously caught on with how lucrative it is.
On the other end of the scale are the poor Youtubers who have something genuine to say but just get lost in the mix. There's one I was watching
until recently, where he's aiming to build a 200mph DIY car (https://www.youtube.com/@Lost13mm). He was hoping for a bit of funding from ads or
Patreon. I found his videos to be very easy to watch, no horrible background music but including really interesting discussions on why he was doing
certain things. He's had to abandon the work because it was taking him longer to process the videos than the actual build work, and he
wasn't getting anything as a reward.
I'm loving Tavarish's flooded P1 rebuild:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLrvMJaD0-PucEO6E4RdNErcO-_Lko5gdh&si=p-pyIBQ1gMeyomPk
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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scudderfish
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| posted on 1/11/24 at 05:02 PM |
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This one is really good 
https://www.youtube.com/@TeaNBizz-Kits
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/11/24 at 12:00 PM |
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There are a few YouTube channels I always try to watch regularly:
HAL Heavy Duty Machining - for lovers of huge lathes & heavy machinery. Interesting and he
explains things well.
Cutting Edge Engineering - for people who like industrial workshop ingenuity (with very
high quality video production by his wife). Also, high levels of swearing in the outtakes!
Clickspring / Clickspring Clips - for exquisite small-scale engineering and clockmaking to the highest
levels of quality. High quality video production considering his tiny workshop.
Torbjörn Åhman - ingenious and fascinating blacksmithing projects. Often amusing.
Blondihacks - a woman who does model engineering projects that I can relate to - she also owns up to
mistakes, and shows how she fixes them (rare in YouTube world).
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bi22le
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| posted on 5/11/24 at 09:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
This one is really good
https://www.youtube.com/@TeaNBizz-Kits
I was hoping we would appear, thanks!!
As someone making content, and watch a fair bit (not as much as I probably should for homework) I understand both sides of the screen. I try my best
to make it entertaining, share my highs and lows, educate and big up the kit car scene as best as I can. I would like to think its right up the street
of any locostbuilder, so please take a look if you can. If you like it, please subscribe, share, like. If you dont please tell me why. Been going 6
months now and, I think, we have put out some top quality content.
I am very fortunate that I have a very talented editor friend. I do the content, he does the editing. We put around 1 hour into making 1 minute, so
its not easy doing a 25min episode every week. Especially when I have to be out in the garage doing stuff to start with!
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/13/viewthread.php?tid=139152&page=1
Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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scudderfish
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| posted on 6/11/24 at 04:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
quote:
Originally posted by scudderfish
This one is really good
https://www.youtube.com/@TeaNBizz-Kits
I was hoping we would appear, thanks!!
As someone making content, and watch a fair bit (not as much as I probably should for homework) I understand both sides of the screen. I try my best
to make it entertaining, share my highs and lows, educate and big up the kit car scene as best as I can. I would like to think its right up the street
of any locostbuilder, so please take a look if you can. If you like it, please subscribe, share, like. If you dont please tell me why. Been going 6
months now and, I think, we have put out some top quality content.
I am very fortunate that I have a very talented editor friend. I do the content, he does the editing. We put around 1 hour into making 1 minute, so
its not easy doing a 25min episode every week. Especially when I have to be out in the garage doing stuff to start with!
It comes across really good. Exactly the right level of tech and humour for me. Much better sound quality than the PPC guys
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