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Simon

posted on 4/11/07 at 07:10 PM Reply With Quote
Why "Y"'s for the engine mounting tubes, when straight pieces are the norm.

In the time this drawing had taken, I think I was in the process of starting my bodywork - scratchbuilt chassis, and bodywork.

Tell him to throw away his computer and start building

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D Beddows

posted on 4/11/07 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
It's how Caterham do/did them and that's the point of the exercise I believe......although I'm not sure there's actually a practical exercise going on here
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Tralfaz

posted on 5/11/07 at 12:09 AM Reply With Quote
IIRC The Y's were created to give clearance for the bell housing, as the Caterham is 4 inches narrower than a Locost frame.

[Edited on 5/11/07 by Tralfaz]

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Simon

posted on 6/11/07 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
4" narrower than standard book chassis??? Mines 4" wider than book. God, it'd be tight in a Caterham

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scudracer

posted on 2/12/07 at 03:49 AM Reply With Quote
- Frame drawing almost complete
- Ford product manager is donating his fathers '79 Escort Ghia 1.6-litre
- FRP wings to be completed by next week

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scudracer

posted on 5/12/07 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
Here's how it looks as of yesterday. Need to add in dash hoop, suspension brackets. Otherwise ... I think we can start cutting metal now.






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Echidna

posted on 6/12/07 at 05:26 AM Reply With Quote
The next step of to analyse it with FEA software, right?
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scudracer

posted on 9/12/07 at 11:41 PM Reply With Quote
Next step is to add in suspension brackets, tabs for dzus fasteners, gussets, etc. Would be good to have FEA done but not sure if 'Mr. Lotus' who's drawing the frame in SolidWorks 3D has access to CosmosWorks.

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scudracer

posted on 21/12/07 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
Gussets & Chassis Reinforcement

Have been thinking about chassis reinforcement. A good bulletin to read would be "Lotus Seven Chassis Reinforcement" issued by DSK Cars, Dec 13, 1978. It's posted on Simplesevens.org I believe. Also, I've been reading "The Racing Motorcycle" by John Bradley. There is a nice picture of a subframe there by SDW Light Fabrications.
Link to their website can be found below.
Apparently the subframe tubing is a mix of 16, 18 and 20 swg material, with the gussets being 20 swg. These are better than the thick plate gussets illustrated in "Sports Car Chassis Design" by Mike Costin/Phipps because stiffness increases gradually (according to John Bradley's book). The ends and corner of the gusset are left unwelded. The work continues ...http://www.sdwlightfabrications.co.uk/





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Joe T

posted on 26/1/08 at 01:12 PM Reply With Quote
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These are better than the thick plate gussets illustrated in "Sports Car Chassis Design" by Mike Costin/Phipps because stiffness increases gradually (according to John Bradley's book). The ends and corner of the gusset are left unwelded.


This is interesting, is there a weight advantage?

I also wondered why the ends are left unwelded, is this to reduce stress in the joint area?





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scudracer

posted on 26/7/08 at 02:22 AM Reply With Quote
Joe - yes I think so. The use of gussets will make the chassis stiff but the thing is they've got to be in the right place. No CosmosWorks so no FEA. Guess we'll have to do it old school style?





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