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Author: Subject: DigiDash project [Making up the test PCB!]
tks

posted on 27/6/05 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
mhhh

Will think about it then....

Ok, ordered a display!
Now what do we think about the layout??

if you can print the pdf attached you will see the display layout on scale 1:1

please tell me your thoughts..??

Tks



[Edited on 28/6/05 by tks]





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ceebmoj

posted on 28/6/05 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
hi,

what are you going to wright the firm where in c, asembely or other?

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tks

posted on 28/6/05 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
Will

Depending on the needings,

but like always i start with Basic.

Today i have ordered/confirmed the first display kit..

when it arrives i will have an better look at how to do it....

(protocol etc.)

Tks

p.d. i have changed the overlay! sow downloading is an must!

will quote price / order for 10 pieces..

[Edited on 28/6/05 by tks]





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ceebmoj

posted on 29/6/05 at 06:45 AM Reply With Quote
hi,

I was not awhere that ther was a basic compiler would you mind posting a link to it.

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DarrenW

posted on 29/6/05 at 09:02 AM Reply With Quote
Layout looks good. I cant see the final sizes but a good idea may be to make it small enough for steering wheel mounting (after SVA of course).

Would it be easy to program in an ignition immobiliser - possibly password protected?? Something that will cut a signal to a relay for either low tension ignition circuit and / or fuel pump relay.

A couple of spare warning lights would be good. The BEC guys could use one for 'N'. Plus a spare for when you get the datalogger developed to show it is recording (im aiming high here for you!!!!, nothing wrong with being future proof).






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alfasudsprint

posted on 29/6/05 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
TKS,
pdf file not downloading...

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alfasudsprint

posted on 29/6/05 at 01:58 PM Reply With Quote
TKS,
sorry, puter problem! ok now, and liked the layout dso far.
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tks

posted on 30/6/05 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
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Well,

Display is untherway sow lets wait and see where i can come up with?


Tks

[Edited on 30/6/05 by tks]





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tks

posted on 4/8/05 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah Yeah Yeah!

Display arrived

Touch screen version!

very very bright (black / white)

and very beautifull

will post some pics soon..!

No can the fun began!

Walter





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James

posted on 4/8/05 at 03:34 PM Reply With Quote
Glad to hear it's progressing well.

Looking forward to seeing the final results!

Cheers,
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tks

posted on 4/8/05 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
PICS! :P

I'm not an really good camera man, and because of its Huge brightness (to be able to see it in the sun)

you have to zoom allot to see the pic. and then the light doesn't enter in the camera.

Here some pics..


This shot is taken from a bigger pic...

Want more?

see my pic section (foto archive)

Regards,

Tks Rescued attachment DisplayZoom.JPG
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tks

posted on 10/10/05 at 08:13 PM Reply With Quote
Well its an while ago but time has come!

Here is the first proto type of my dash..

does any one have a great idea's or is any one more skilled with paint as me?
with paint i can make images wich will be shown on the display!(black white paint mode)

upload all your ideas and the winner's idea will be going in production!

Tks

the flexibility is enormous... i can do every thing sow its more difficulter that we now have an clean sheet and i have no idea where to start...

i liked the idea of an rpm bar? but an horizontal one would be somewhat to simple...with the flash in the upper corner(you enter settings while not driveing)




[Edited on 10/10/05 by tks] Rescued attachment Display beta version.JPG
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tks

posted on 10/10/05 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Sensors pickup....

Ok,

i need to have an idea of wich sensors i'm dealing with. because i don't want to build it the simple way and say you need this, that sensors etc. (wich for us is an pain in the .... )

i want to make it flexible.

as from now on the following is needed to let the complete thing work!


- high beam live cable (just an extra connection to one of the bulb leads)
- temp sensor wire, temp sensor should NTC or PTC to GROUND (or just connect one end to GROUND)
- oil pressure! should switch to ground if no pressure is readed!
- Neutral should switch to ground if in Neutral
- Speed pickup: I use the front ABS sensor from my Sierra hub. but in fact every way should work.
- Rpm coil pickup, or better MCU corrected coil output (like my injection VFR has) it reads the same freq as on one coil any way)
- if voltage rises below 0,7volts it will trigger the pwm timer.
- left dirrecion life feed from the left direction bulb.
- right dirrecion life feed from the right
(if both are present Hazzard led wil be lit)

Im mobilizer is easy to build in..cutting of fuel pump etc. witht the touch screen we can do allot of tricks!

also i was thinking of an accedident switch....

(just an bulb in an housing behind the rad) when the bulb brakes (and the spiral)
you now its time to shut down the engine!

Tks





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tks

posted on 10/10/05 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
Dimensioed Overlay

Downloading.....





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Dale

posted on 10/10/05 at 09:43 PM Reply With Quote
I am assuming that the rpm graph you are showing is typical curved graph. What if you made it vertical but as it goes up the horizontal shows level increases as well. This way there is no vectoring to get a curve.
It may actually not be any easier, just a thought.
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and 19 now want to drive but have to be 25 before insurance will allow. Finally on the road

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tks

posted on 10/10/05 at 09:49 PM Reply With Quote
mhh

i have thought about it..

but the problem is... how i can we read then the difference between 6 and 12000rpm???

maybe i just should split it up in mayne horizontal ones? in fact its that!


go up wards and draw an new horizontal line.. then when we reach the corner we just switch to an very small width but we increase line high enormous...

think we have got the solution!

Soon newer pic!

Tks





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MikeRJ

posted on 12/10/05 at 12:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ceebmoj
as you are thinking of using a PIC if you use a DS PIC you can use the free PIC dev tools to make up youer poly representations. and the DS is well soted to handleing evry thing You need and could do some nice graphics if that is what you like.


I know this is a bit old now, but the "free" part of the Microchip C compiler is GCC based. The bit you get when you pay for it is the optimiser, and believe me you need it! The GCC port seems to have been designed to output some fairly horrible code..

SDCC now works with most PIC16x and PIC18x, though still not exactly commerical quality.

As someone who loves using PIC's (and I use them everyday) it pains me to say it, but if you use one of the AVR devices you get a very useable GCC port in the shape of WinAVR. The AVR's are also significantly faster than the PIC's for the same clock speed.

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tks

posted on 12/10/05 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
PIC vs AVR

lol i only use an pic device, and when running @ 20Mhz we can do everything we want. In fact its only generating the data and sends them to the display
(I2c or SPI or RS232) and the display the shows that info.

Sow we don't need avr for nothing. also avr is an difficult language because they are sow much commands, that saying thats the reason wy its faster.

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MikeRJ

posted on 12/10/05 at 11:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tks
Sow we don't need avr for nothing. also avr is an difficult language because they are sow much commands, that saying thats the reason wy its faster.
Tks


If you are programming in C, then obviously there is very little difference. The AVR does have a larger instruction set than the PIC if you are using assembly, but it's actually not hard to pick up. I personaly prefer PIC's, having used them most for the last 10 years or so, but I have just finished a project with a Mega128 and I have to say I was impressed with the speed.

However, the only reason I suggested the AVR was in terms of a good, free C compiler which is sadly lacking for the PIC. I use the HiTech compilers for 16F and 18F in work, and it's very good, but the $800 price tag is out of reach for all but the wealthiest amateur/hobbiest.

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tks

posted on 13/10/05 at 12:49 PM Reply With Quote
ok

but lets keep this one to the point..

whe are not binded to Avr? we don't need performance....

20Hz rpm and 2hz speed is enough..

what we also could make guys....
GUYS??!!???

Is 2 bars 1 for speed and 1 for rpm??

Tks





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Northy

posted on 13/10/05 at 01:11 PM Reply With Quote
Tks,

This is looking good. If you need any help just let me know.





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Gav

posted on 13/10/05 at 03:59 PM Reply With Quote
how about G sensors?
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tks

posted on 13/10/05 at 07:37 PM Reply With Quote
mhh

they are easy to communicate with...

when i searched for them i found ones..

but the limit it could messure was 1G..

soww it wasn't much. while saying that.

an porsche 911 GT (i thought it was this model) while braking pulls 1G

but have no idea about an locost.

another thing is thats almost 1 year ago sow maybe there are newer ones..

Tks





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tks

posted on 28/11/05 at 12:55 PM Reply With Quote
hi guys

i need the help of some electronic/ computer programmers who are willing to help..

I'm a bit stuck with the LCD display, and don't know wich technique to use to interface with it.

Instead that it has an programming language its more like an command crusher.....

Need to know how to recieve RS-232 data with it. I know it can send it...

LINK to the MANUAL

To help the only thing needed is downloading from the site the Toolkit in it it comes with an compiler and an realtime display to test your program!

if we can make this together to a succes we can come to an very good alternative for the expensive dashes arround!

sow we can save some hundreths of pounds.. and spent them on better things.. like tyres/engine etc.


Tks

[Edited on 28/11/05 by tks]





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Gav

posted on 28/11/05 at 07:42 PM Reply With Quote
whats the link to the sdk?

edit: http://www.electronicassembly.de/eng/dbl/dbl.htm#Software

[Edited on 28/11/05 by Gav]

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