02GF74
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 12:42 PM |
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change to sierra running gear?
First problem I have is that I am not 100% sure of what running gear I have.
As far as I can tell, rear eaxle is mk2 escort, rack is mk 2 escort and hubs are mk3/4 cortina / Capri.
I need to replace a steering link (rod between rack and ball joint) and I am missing one back plate - this may turn up if I can get in touch with the
seller.
I have found that getting hold of escort mk2 parts is difficult; I would need to go to breakers for them.
So to avoid looking for rare parts in the future, I might as well use more recent parts off a sierra.
It is unlikely to be be a simple bolt off/bolt on job so how difficult would it be to fit a sierra rear axle and sierra rack?
1. would I need to make modification to the chasis for the rack?
2. is the sierra rear axle the track same as mk2 escort?
3. will I need to modify the prop? (length and flange?)
4. will my alloys fit the rear axle?
5. can the sierra back plates be modified to fit escort axle?
6. what is the diff. ratio for both?
any other suggestion welcome (obviously simplest would be to find the mk2 parts).
Anyone know of mk2 escort clubs? (looked on the web but not found any specicific to this model  )
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paulf
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 12:53 PM |
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It would not be worth trying to change to Sierra there are to many differences and the Sierra has independent rear suspension not an axle.
Rally design sell new racks for about £60 and im sure a back plate will turn up if you look for a while.Once running you shouldnt have too many parts
problems as you are unlikely to do large milages in the car, so as long as it is maintained well shouldnt be a problem.
Paul.
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 12:54 PM |
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the sierra has an independant rear suspension and so will require the redesign of the chassis, this topic has been covered elswhere in the recent
past.
the stearing rack will have to be narrowed
the propshaft would have to be changed dependant upon what engine and gear box you are using.
the back plates being modified is something i cannot answer im afraid
the sierra mostly used 14" wheels so there may be fitting problems with the front disks if using 13" wheels
i hope this is of some use
Ditch
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02GF74
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 01:02 PM |
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hmmm, pretty sure sierra had live axle and independent suspension accordng to model.
ideally rally dsign (Faversham,Kent?) would be able to supply the rod rather than the whole rack.
anyways, seems path of least resistance is to keep searchinng for mk2 escort parts.
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romer
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 01:09 PM |
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Not sure what you mean by "back plates"?
If front axle and you mean the disc protector plates as fitted to Std mk1 & 2 escorts, just remove them and let the air get at the discs.
If you mean rear axle brake back plates, then I'm sure I've seen a thread on here somewhere to convert the back (escort) axle to disc
brake. in that case you would not need the rear brake back plates.
I hope what I've said is correct - no doubt someone else will back me or knock me down 
Romer
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big_wasa
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 01:26 PM |
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As Paul has said brand new rack and postage to your door for £60 (rack is £50). From Rally design...Awsome service , I ordered on line before lunch
and it was on my door step by lunch the next day
Back plates are mega expensive and hard to find . recon pair with shoes ect went for over £80 on ebay last week
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Danozeman
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 01:43 PM |
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My MK2 rack cost me 30 quid from a factor. I got a quick rack cheap off egay too. Most mk2 escy bits are either stocked or can be got by motor
factors. eg wheel cylinders, racks etc.
I got a pair of 9 inch rs2000 back plates with shoes, drums etc off ebay complete. These go for daft money.
Unless you go for de dion the sierra option will need vast modifications for the IRS.
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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ditchlewis
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 02:26 PM |
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the P100 the sierra pick up had a live axle, but i have not come across a live axel on the saloon or estate, but i stand to be corrected.
regards
Ditch
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froggy
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 03:30 PM |
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go and stand in front of a mirror and give yourself a good hard slap youve just by passed several months of hard work buying an unfinished car just
finish it and then start changing bits
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paulf
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| posted on 9/12/05 at 10:34 PM |
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This is possible , just needs a a pair of sierra rear callipers , some mk3 escort front disks and some brackets as sold by rally design to fit the
callipers. A brake bias valve is needed to correct the brakebalance, or smaller rear callipers from a fwd car ie rover 216 or similiar could be
fitted, but the brackets may have to be custom made.
Paul
quote:
Originally posted by romer
If you mean rear axle brake back plates, then I'm sure I've seen a thread on here somewhere to convert the back (escort) axle to disc
brake. in that case you would not need the rear brake back plates.
I hope what I've said is correct - no doubt someone else will back me or knock me down
Romer
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02GF74
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| posted on 12/12/05 at 12:15 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by froggy
go and stand in front of a mirror and give yourself a good hard slap youve just by passed several months of hard work buying an unfinished car just
finish it and then start changing bits
if only that were the case
I am missing escort mk2 parts that are next to impossible to find hence looking at more recent car components i.e. sierra.
I may need to get a rally design rack but it seems a bit of a waste of money as all I need is to replace the bent steering arm that would probably
cost about a fiver if it were available.
re: back plate - I am missing one of the rear brake back plates, basically the one that is mirror image to this:
 
rear brake
It has 8 in. drums so seems to be escort mk2. I am not sure if the one I have is the driver or passenger side!! The haynes manuals don't help
either - anyone know?
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 12/12/05 at 12:59 PM |
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Think you will find that is the O/S ,the handbrake operating lever should be at the rear of the axle . But it has been a while since I worked on a
mark2.
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02GF74
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| posted on 13/12/05 at 11:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
Think you will find that is the O/S ,the handbrake operating lever should be at the rear of the axle . But it has been a while since I worked on a
mark2.
is the brake cylinder at the top or bottom? I have a feeling the photo showsthe drum updisde down so ofcourse that will affect the position ofthe
brake lever!
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oliwb
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| posted on 13/12/05 at 03:06 PM |
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really simple rule to work out how brake cylinders/callipers should be fitted: the bleed nipple should always be at the top! Tiger mechanic taught me
that one! It is possible to put all Sierra running gear in (take a look at the Tiger CAT, such as the one I'm building) but as others say it
would be a lot of work..but depending on your stage of the build and inclination it might be worth doing. If I can help you out with any info,
photo's measurements etc of my CAT and sierra gear give me a shout only too happy to help out...Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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rocket
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 11:04 AM |
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oh err
That is unless there are designed to go at the bottom!! ( some car are built like this!)
I can't see the front disks off an escort fitting the back because the is no facility for hand brake???
Rgds
Rogerquote:
Originally posted by oliwb
really simple rule to work out how brake cylinders/callipers should be fitted: the bleed nipple should always be at the top! Tiger mechanic taught me
that one! It is possible to put all Sierra running gear in (take a look at the Tiger CAT, such as the one I'm building) but as others say it
would be a lot of work..but depending on your stage of the build and inclination it might be worth doing. If I can help you out with any info,
photo's measurements etc of my CAT and sierra gear give me a shout only too happy to help out...Cheers Oli.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 31/12/05 at 02:53 PM |
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Escort bit aren't that difficult to find,
for example this took a couple of key strokes
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ESCORT-MK1-AND-MK2-REAR-AXLE-9-DRUMS_W0QQitemZ4599938320QQcategoryZ21654QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Also there are a couple or more specialist Escort rally car breakers around, and there is always a disc conversionto consider using Mk3 Escort front
discs and Rover, VW or Sierra rear calipers.
The steering rack tie rod from a MK2 Escort, MK3-5 Cortina and I think manual steer MK1/Mk2 Granada should fit you rack.
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