Trev Borg
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| posted on 15/1/05 at 09:27 PM |
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Cheap(Yorkshireman) concentric clutch slave cylinder
Ok, nearly finished the new and improved type 9 to alfa V6 belly-housing, and want to furbish it with concentric slave cylinder.
But which one ?
Cheap and easy to get hold of.
Ford ? Saab ?
someone point me in the right direction please 
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 16/1/05 at 12:03 AM |
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SAAB! If you contact Rob Lane he can give you an exact price as he bought one last week for under £30 new.(copy)
Look in my archive for pics of Saab unit fitted to my Toyota box.
DEAN.......
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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907
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| posted on 16/1/05 at 07:28 AM |
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Hi Trev,
Not sure if this is of any help but here's a pic of the Ford one I used.
I don't know how much they cost as I bought it from a bloke who was
going to fit it to his rally car (Mexico), but decided it was to much work.
It has a flat bearing face so needs to fit onto a clutch with curved fingers,
but I'v got over this by the use of a bronze insert.
The inner back face of the bellhousing needed machining to give a flat face,
and spacers made to position it the right distance from the clutch.
It's a Getrag box, Mondeo slave, onto a 907 Lotus clutch plate & engine.
I hope this is of some help.
ATB Paul G
 
Rescued attachment Con clutch s.jpg
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andylancaster3000
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| posted on 16/1/05 at 01:53 PM |
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Just found some notes on a previous car build, the Saab unit to use is from the 99 and 900 series.
Hope this is of any help,
Andy
[Edited on 16/1/05 by andylancaster3000]
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 19/1/05 at 09:30 PM |
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ok got myself a nice mondeo one from ye olde robbing breakers (£10).
Problem is the shaft on the type 9 is about 34mm, an't 'ole int middla slave cylinder is about 28mm
Bugger
anyone know how big the Saab one is ?
or what slave cylinder W*******D use for there type 9 conversion ?
I am glad i didn't pay a lot of money for it.
anyone want one ?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 02:19 AM |
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I just remembered why I didn't use the the ford unit I had been given to try,Oh yes,it wasn't big enough in the centre!
Thats why I said to use the SAAB one.
Sorry Trev!I new there was a reason ,especially as I had both the zetec unit to try and a Saab unit.
I have used the Saab 9000 unit,I think the old 99 unit is the same but shorter,that is the one Rob has just bought.I think his is about 9mm
shorter.
I'll can give you some exact dimensions in the morning when I will measure them both up as I'm making a couple of adapter plates, a second
one for myself and another for Rob lanes Gemini.
All the best , DEAN..
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 07:38 AM |
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i had a quick look onsome sites last night and the info coming back was that the saab one still may be too small
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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NS Dev
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 09:07 AM |
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I am using the saab 900 release bearing with a type 9 'box, it fots no problem.
If you go on to the AP Racing website, and look at their slave cyls, they have full drawings as PDF's and one of their cyls is a direct copy of
the saab one (they say which one on there)
If you go to your local parts centre and ask for 1988 saab 900 slave cyl you will get the right one and it is £30-£40. You can buy adaptors to fit it
to the type 9 gearbox, or make one yourself from a big lump of ally, this is what I am doing. You replace the "trumpet housing" on the
front of the ford box with the lump of ally, drilled to suit the 4 bolt fixing, and you need to counterbore the back of the ally to take the input
shaft oil seal.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 09:09 AM |
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it fits, not fots!
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CairB
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 12:56 PM |
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Trevborg,
The concentric clutch slave cylinder that I am using is similar to the one from Burtonpower. It mounts onto an aluminium adaptor that I had to modify.
I have used the type 9 front oil seal housing, but cut off the tube that was there to locate the thrust release bearing assembly.
Is that the diameter that you are struggling to clear with the 28mm ID?
Burtonpowers web site show adaptor flanges.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Colin
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NS Dev
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 02:40 PM |
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normally the adaptor replaces the oil seal housing (trumpet housing) completely, and the oil seal fits into the back of the adaptor. The assembly sold
by burton is the saab one (or the AP derivative) if I remember correctly.
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 20/1/05 at 06:09 PM |
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Ok I'm starting to understand the working of these slave cylinder thingys now.
'Trumpet housing' thats the blasted problem area.
I never knew you could take that bit off 
I think I may just take it off and skim the bugger a wee bit. Make an adaptor and Bob's your aunty's husband.
Or is that a bad idea ?
Should i just replace the whole troblesome trumpet ?
[Edited on 20/1/2005 by Trev Borg]
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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NS Dev
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| posted on 21/1/05 at 07:06 PM |
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I will be removing the "trumpet housing" (just undo the 4 bolts holding it on and pull it off!) and replacing it with the ally spacer
which mounts the cylinder. Just machine/get machined, the back of the ally spacer to match the machining on the back of the trumpet housing.
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 21/1/05 at 08:39 PM |
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sounds like a good plan
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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Findlay234
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| posted on 23/1/05 at 11:20 AM |
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did anyone find out where rob got his from?? the best price ive seen for a 900 one is 45 but that does include p&p
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britishtrident
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| posted on 23/1/05 at 12:27 PM |
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"partsforsaabs" are just a bit under 40ukp all include. --- Of course that dosen't include the release bearing
Euro Car Parts also car the cylinder a a reasonable price and have loads of branches."
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 23/1/05 at 01:25 PM |
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parts
[Edited on 23/1/2005 by Trev Borg]
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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owelly
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| posted on 31/1/05 at 09:57 PM |
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You see trevski.....?
[Edited on 31/1/05 by owelly]
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owelly
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 posted on 31/1/05 at 10:16 PM |
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Hmmmmmmm? Try this then.....!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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Trev Borg
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| posted on 1/2/05 at 03:15 PM |
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Whats the ugly thing bloking the picture of the Dell keyboard then ?
Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes.
By that time, who cares.
You're a mile away, and you've got his shoes
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Peteff
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| posted on 1/2/05 at 07:13 PM |
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It looks like one of those things you press down and wait. It jumps up after the suction breaks. They usually have a funny head on them though.
"Time for bed" said Zebede, "You'll be lucky", said Florence.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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owelly
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| posted on 4/4/05 at 02:51 PM |
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Still need to fit a 'rounded' CRB to the Ford Slave cylinder. Any suggestions??
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owelly
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| posted on 5/4/05 at 10:21 PM |
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Think bell housing!!!!
3ltr V6 Alfa to T9 Ford
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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NS Dev
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 07:09 AM |
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I have a similar concern. I am using a Vauxhall pressure plate (which has rounded spring fingers) and I think the Saab clutch release bearing is
rounded too, which means round on round, not normally the way it's done, but I think I may do it anyway and see what happens!
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owelly
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:50 PM |
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I'll try a Saab slave. Which one is it I need? I'll have a tip to the scrappy tmorra!!!
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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