Clue: It's not a Locost
Chris
[Edited on 26/11/03 by ChrisW]
Listen to the recording here and vote
Clue: It's not a Locost
Chris
[Edited on 26/11/03 by ChrisW]
sounds a bit like a shagged diesel - and youd hardly be asking us if it sounded like a normal petrol or diesel - but if its a petrol I wouldnt go far
in it!. 
The indycars I have heard on methanol didnt sound like that.
As a wild shot, could it be hippy's beemer motor ? 
atb
steve
[Edited on 26/11/03 by stephen_gusterson]
Rearrange these letters into a different order then work out what each letter stands for.
O. F.
sounds like an alfa 155 2.0 16valve with about 103000 on the clock,now where do i get my prize?
Sounds like your 306 dont it Chris ???
Sounds healthy enough to me, but then again I drive a Nissan 2.3 diesel van so anything sounds good.
yours, Pete.
I reckon it's a 4x4 - all 4x4's sound this way from underneath when they run over you cos they can't see you when reversing!
Metal Hippys M30B34 big six is a fine engine. 218bhp IIRC, running Bosch Motronic engine mangement. Im only saying this cos the family used to have a
couple. Alpina used the basic engine, and twin turboed it to get 360bhp, and 380lbft torque: they called it the B10 biturbo. Wicked car.
Ahem, i'll get me coat.
Ed.
P.S. 3430 cc too. i know FAR too much about those engines!
In that case email me or something and tell me absolutely everything you can remember...
All info is good info. 
But that sound file is definitely not my Beemer lump.
actually, it sounds like its got a hint of dragster to it.......so im going for methanol as a backup each way bet.
ps - please dont encourage hippy
Says Steve 'Mine isn't a standard Locost' Gusterwotsit...
im working on a kinda methanol / cooking oil mixture, with a dash of petrol mixed with diesel as one of my options.
this isnt for fuel, but an acellerant to torch it if its not finished in 2004!
atb
steve
Tosspot.
In the nicest possible way...
I will be taking some in a spray can to a show next year.
Liberal amounts applied to your locks might get some of the grease out of your hair which is indirectly affecting your brain
love and kisses
Steve
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
Tosspot.
In the nicest possible way...
Steve... What kind of car are you building again...?
what was this thread about? 
So.... WT F is it! Cooking oil? Diesel?
Clatters like a diesel, but probably smells like french fries while driving...
Graber
it doesnt sound quite diesel'y enough for me.....thats why im starting to wonder if its tuned for petrol but running rough on methanol, and
suffering froma bit of pre-ignition.
Plus, with ChrisW apparent choices in cars, it more likely hes into something trick than fish and chips.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
im working on a kinda methanol / cooking oil mixture, with a dash of petrol mixed with diesel as one of my options.
this isnt for fuel, but an acellerant to torch it if its not finished in 2004!
atb
steve
i've joined the minority and gone for methanol. sounds bit like dragsters do at idle. not right for a diesel, could be a small petrol engine with
the exhaust half off, don't know what cooking oils sounds like in an engine, or if it's any different to a diesel.
Ned.
Sounds like an air powered DA at low speed.
I voted cooking oil, only cos there isn't an air option
ATB
Simon
I recon it has a dragster type sound too - as ned says - which was what tended to make me change my mind.
Im a methanol man now.
make mine a pint.
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
sounds like an alfa 155 2.0 16valve with about 103000 on the clock,now where do i get my prize?
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
I quite like the idea of Hippy's engine. When he finally admits defeat and gets a Pinto I'll make him an offer for it!
[Edited on 28/11/03 by ChrisW]
quote:
Originally posted by Ben_Copeland
lol he wont ever admit defeat !!
I won't admit defeat because I've got a chassis designed that will fit the thing.
So you can all cock off.
And Chris you can find another if you really want one, there's loads about.
or you could use the 4 cylinder 1.6/1.8 as found in old 3 series or newer compacts.
beats redesigning the chassis, though not as quick as the m3 lump.
Ned.
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
So you can all cock off.
quote:
Originally posted by ned
or you could use the 4 cylinder 1.6/1.8 as found in old 3 series or newer compacts.
beats redesigning the chassis, though not as quick as the m3 lump.
Ned.
quote:
Originally posted by ned
or you could use the 4 cylinder 1.6/1.8 as found in old 3 series or newer compacts.
beats redesigning the chassis, though not as quick as the m3 lump.
Ned.
Come on guys...give Hippy a break (yeah I know some of you are..).....we all have our own ideas on what's right and desirable, and the easier
options are all well mapped out...but give him some credit for doing something different...sure it will take a long time (I know).....I know it's
mostly fun and a bit of tease, but let's encourage the adventurous and crazy now and then.....that's what I mainly get and I'm as crazy
as anyone...
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
Besides, I thought each car was supposed to be how each individual wants it?
i reckon its a diesel running a mix of cooking oil and meths. so there.
quote:
Originally posted by Alan B
Come on guys...give Hippy a break (yeah I know some of you are..).
) quote:
...and I'll tell you something - when he gets his Beemer-powered beast on the road there'll be a lot of people wanting to know how he did it!
I am just about to have my 318i beemer replaced next year. Nice car, but the friggin engines only got 118hp! for a 1.9!
Its a 2000 W model.
If you can pick up a 316 it makes a monster 105 hp.
REALLY new 318 are 143hp, but that would be a very expensive route methinks.
no way is it a sensible alternative to hippies engine, or even an injected pinto! - only makes 3hp more.
So, NED, why are you going to the hassle of fitting 150 or so hp vauxhall engines that need someone elses gearbox with someone elses clutch, and
advising the best way to go is a low powered beemer engine than a nice M series one?
If you take a look under the bonnet of a 3 series you will see its a slant four, so it will fit a bit awqward in the bay, and its got a lot of extras
at the bottom which makes it wide at the base - in exactyl the same way that a locost chassis isnt!
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by ned
or you could use the 4 cylinder 1.6/1.8 as found in old 3 series or newer compacts.
beats redesigning the chassis, though not as quick as the m3 lump.
Ned.
oh - im just wondering.
has anyone noticed that im building somethign different?
Seriously tho. I like the idea of hippies car, and hope he finishes it (one day) and its all he expects from it. However, I recon that the more
complicated the car, and the longer it takes, the greater the chance of losing interest, or dying of old age.
get in the garage, hipster, and prove these doubters wrong. Im getting ever closer to my goal, but coulda finished way back if i had taken the easy
route of building a bog std seven.
atb
steve
IMVHO - the car is as individual as the owner... I give the man (hippy) a ceegar for having the bottle to attempt it. As we (Hellfire Team) are real 'ammer-chewers' I think everyone makes decisions on the resources available at the time. In the end, I don't think anyone is right or wrong - just different, until self-proven otherwise.
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
And they can bollox. I'll still be in a sulk and not tell them..
I'll let you look Dave, you're a good guy
On a serious note, thanks for the words of support lads. It's nice to know some people can be positive about something a bit different.
Watch this space.
i am watching this space, waiting for chris to spit out the answer! what was that engine running on?!
I know, but I'm not telling...
how about an answer!!!!!!
following Neds suggestion of a smaller beemer engine....
look how wide it is at bottom, and howm much there is to make 118hp...
atb
steve
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bloooody hell. i post a slight dig at hippy, and I'm not the first. a half hearted joke and everyone jumps on me like, well, I'll let you
decide.
I don't claim to know everything, I just post a lot. i never suggested the 4 ylinder beemer as the best cheap engine, just a possibilty which as
gusteringman points out is quite impracticle, but if ghippy wants to use the m3 straight 6 and build a car around it, someone might want to do the
same for the beemer 4 cylinder, you never know.
Now I'm with Joel, what is that engine running on chris?
Ned.
if you refer to an earlier post you will se its my alfa and its running on unleaded and ya boo to all those who said it was cooking oil or summat
im sure you could get the 318 to fit , but as its such a low power motor, it wouldnt be worth the trouble - unless you want a beemer badge on yer
locost bonnet.
but then if hippy can have on, I dont want one
atb
steve
Children please! Play nicely!
Hippy, with you being the head of the order of non-conformists I salute you! With the amount of repetitive stuff you get from the Westie and
Cateringvan crowd you see at the shows I love seeing the cars that are different.
I just wish M3 evos were more commonly abandoned around me! 330(?)BHP would be an acceptable upgrade to my Pinto!
Cheers,
James
M3 Evo was 320bhp ish i think, current M3 is 343 or thereabouts. Nice engine (one of the best?), but I believe it's an iron block (for strength
since alloy'd be too thin for the larger bores) and thus probably quite heavy.
What are the specs on the M535 engine hippy?
Marlin have the M3 Evo motor as an option in their beast I believe.
-Mackie - waiting to see if Irish bloke will accept his offer for a rebuilt Vitesse engine and box.
PS. That BMW 4cyl looks huge! Like as wide as a Rover V8 huge. Madness. The BMW V8 is suitably massive too I think.
[Edited on 3/12/03 by mackie]
I was going to suggest that Hippy gets hold of a Marlin build manual, if they're available.
It's always useful to see how other people tackle problems.
DJ
As Mackie points out, it's an M535i engine, not an M3 engine..
Iron block, alloy head.
218bhp, 229lb/ft, big, heavy, 0-60 in 7.2 seconds in the donor....
It'll do the job.
quote:
big, heavy
Conrod already gave the answer....
Yes the chassis design is about ready but no it hasn't been started yet.
Other priorities at the moment, hopefully the new year.
As for starting another thread I'm not going to...
I'm thinking of putting in place an information blackout until I can show pictures of the engine sat in a chassis. Less chance of people starting
off again on how it won't work when they see the progress that way.
Oh aye and yes you'll have one of the first drives if you fit in the thing...
If we get this SD1 Vitesse engine sorted we should both go down to Santa Pod and have a wee race. Britain (well sort of) vs Germany
ChrisW - can you set up a section entitled "Over engined freakmachines" please?
[Edited on 3/12/03 by mackie]
Dunno about racing at Santa Pod....
I was going to say we could wee on the Nova crowd at race what you bring but after seeing that turbo Nova at Donington i'm not entirely
convinced we would...
TBPH drag racing isn't up my street really, and it probably wouldn't do 20 yr old drive trains any good.
quote:
Originally posted by Metal Hippy
I'm thinking of putting in place an information blackout until I can show pictures of the engine sat in a chassis. Less chance of people starting off again on how it won't work when they see the progress that way.
Well as I've said before...
With the Beemer lump in it the thing is gonna be about sudden blasts of acceleration for overtaking the plebs in Novas....
Just a happy coinicidence that it'd be able to leave the baseball cap brigade standing at the lights...
James, it's a McSorley 7+442 with a few modifications....
Other than that you'll have to wait and see
santa pods 10 mins from here. I wouldnt win, but id take yer on
atb
steve
I just noticed your signature mate...
I think Timf should add my quote aswell...