Ok then im ready to go what do i need to do.

I need to know how to get a chassis no and what the process is with booking the sva/registering the car afterwards.

this is for the people who have done it already and know!

Thanks in advance for your help.

contact your local vro,they arange for you to take the car to their place to check engine no,take all your bills in some sort of order,they will send by post a chassis no.
when you got that get car mot,d using chassis no(stamped/engraved onto chassis rail and stamped onto a riveted plate),then hand over a sack of cash and apply for test.good luck!

ok thanks whats the rules on driving it to the mot shop and sva centre

How did you do it (PTM) your web site doesnt say and you didnt have number plates on.

is it perhaps a northern thing?

you will have to trailer it to the vro,when you get a chassis no fitted you can drive it to an mot station if you have insurance and it is pre booked,make sure its written in the book!,make cardboard no plates using chassis no as no plates,you also use this method to drive to the sva station.hth and good luck.

as an interesting aside to this, I have seen alternative views. Some are unbelievable, and I dont condone them.

1. Make up a vin. just do something like the robin hood builders do. They put ROBINHOOD as the first letters, with their kit invoice number after it to make 17 characters. Yes, its stupid, yes its unbeleivable, yes its against the system, but that is what they do. Look on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/robinhood2b if you doubt my sanity.

2. I have heard that you can just drive your unregistered un chassis numbered car to inspection. "I was invited to drive it here for inspection therefore it must be ok" was another pretty crap idea from robin hood drivers. I was seen as a bit of a nanny saying that would not hold up when plod issues you a ticket.

3. This one is probably true - you dont need number plates of any kind when going to the sva. As long as your car has insurance and a unique VIN and is going to a SVA test.

4. There is a debate as to if a kit car needs an mot on first registration. I would advocate it does, as again, explain that to plod at the side of the road. It also gives you a chance to shake down the car on the road prior to sva. A couple miles to an mot centre might save a disaster on a 40 mile trip to the sva centre.


atb

steve




btw - you have to write to your VRO for an application for a vin, and to DVLA for the SVA application. I have had both forms here for months - no harm in hoping!

When I got my vin the inspector was coming to look at the car to prove it's existence but he was busy so he just sent the number, so the car was registered for sva, but I had it mot'd first. It failed the first two so I had to keep going back for retests, minor problems, but I have heard that the sva certificate qualifies as a test but the vro kept that so I can't see how that works.

yours, Pete.

you need an mot cert for a tax disc,mrs jobsworth wont belive you if you try telling her bout a MAC that you cant produce.

I'm certain my mate got on the road with no MOT. Not sure how he did it mind.

About the bills though - what bills do the VRO need and how strict are they about it? Reason I ask is that I lost a folder of car gubbins ages ago containing, among other things, my early receipts. Unfortunately this included reciepts for my donor car, steel and engine. Most of these were just hand written on bits of paper with words to the effect of "Received from 'Mr A' on 'date x' one sierra XR4x4" etc etc and signed. I was thinking about just getting people with different handwriting to write them again - would I get away with it. Unfortunately I also lost any contact details for the donor car person so I can't get him to write me another receipt (and he wasn't the previous registered keeper either). Dunno about the steel receipt cos that was a proper printed invoice.

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Liam

Liam, it sounds like you're up poo creek in a barbed wire canoe with tennis racquets as paddles, but then I could be wrong.

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Liam, it sounds like you're up poo creek in a barbed wire canoe with tennis racquets as paddles, but then I could be wrong.

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Once bought a Landrover that had a 9999cc engine, according to the logbook!

Just make all your receipts up. Who will ever check??

mrs jobsworth checked my receipts so if you lost them just say" lost them" or try to borrow some from someone else,you get them back.

A lot of businesses issue receipts which they have printed themselves on a "ink jet" printer, whatever that is. I think they need a computer to make the printer work. Apparently some computers can make the printer do all sorts of different typefaces too!

John

Liam......aren't you building your own chassis? i thought i read somewhere if its a home built chassis ie no manufacturers vin plate then you end up witha Q anyway and i thought you only needed a pile of reciepts if you wanted a new reg so the reciepts would prove that all of the components were new (except one reconditioned component9 reconditioned to a new spec))

take a look at this site,

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/regrebil.htm

does this help?

looks like a Q for you

as long as you can show that your chassis is new, and that the engine and gearbox and most main items come from a single donor, YOU WILL get an age related plate.

DONT get confused with the 8 point score system - it does not apply to the category a locost fits in.

Just take a look at locosts on other web sites - do you see a lot of Q plates. No - didnt think so.


atb

steve



PS

as an example, look at this one :

http://www.christopher.gibbons.btinternet.co.uk/


Its apparently got a japanese bike engine in it, and a stainless steel fuel tank



[Edited on 29/10/02 by stephen_gusterson]

So - looking at the DVLA link Viper posted, the Locost is in category D - Kit Conversions. That's what I thought and I guess it must be if so many Locosts have age-related plates. The only slightly confusing thing is that it says the chassis comes from 'a specialist kit manufacturer'. Does that mean we all count as specialist kit manafacturers or will nice VRO people overlook that exact wording and put us in category D cos it's the closest to where a Locost fits. Is this where the confusion lies and why we hear stories of different VROs interpreting the rules diffently?

With that in mind - if I finish my car, go along to my local VRO and Mrs Jobsworth says "nope - that's a 'radically altered vehicle' - and you dont get 8 points so it's a Q-plate", and it's maybe a bad day and I can't convince her otherwise, can I say "Forget about it matey - I know my car should be considered as a 'kit conversion' - I'm off to a different VRO. Thanks for nothing knob-face"?

Or does it have to be your local VRO?

Any idea what counts as a 'major component' in the kit conversion scheme? I'm not using the donor box but it was fitted to Sierra XR4x4s - would they know otherwise if I said it was the box from the donor - there is no 'gearbox number' on the V5 is there? Not using the engine but i 'could be' theoretically if I put my Honda engine number on my donor's V5 - that's what I was getting at earlier. Then I'll have both axles - front and rear, and the steering column.

Liam

The trouble is nobody really knows,this is why cheap dutton log books are rife.

The GOV had this mad idea for some reason about SVA and we are stuck with it.

On a light note thoughdid you read in the links when we had them about the builder who got away with no SVA at all.

Trailered his car to local VRO for chassis number,was told just MOT it and they sorted log book for him.

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On a light note thoughdid you read in the links when we had them about the builder who got away with no SVA at all.

Trailered his car to local VRO for chassis number,was told just MOT it and they sorted log book for him.

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contact your local vro,

whats a vro?

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David Jenkins - 31/10/02 at 08:48 AM

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Or does it have to be your local VRO?

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If you look at that government link posted further up, it says that you must go to your local place - if you're outside the catchment area then you get sent away.

David

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bob - 31/10/02 at 10:20 AM

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contact your local vro,

whats a vro?

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Vehicle Registration Office

Redeye,where are you in scotland as there are 5 VRO's and 1 in carlisle.
I've got the addresses and phone numbers if you give us a clue.

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johnston - 31/10/02 at 09:41 PM

any1 know how to do all this in norythern ireland?????

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bob - 31/10/02 at 09:55 PM

Johnston

Only info i have is from swansea,these links may help.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/

http://www.via.gov.uk/

Someone at swansea must know.

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johnston - 1/11/02 at 06:05 PM

well with my lastest conversations wit the dvla i think id be better of talkin to the moon

got a summons for no car tax on a car that wasnt registered to me that i never owned after 6 letters tellin them this got a summons

phoned them got transferred 8 times then had 2 go on hold to be told either pay it or go to court

all be cause i owned up to havin no tax on the car parked next to it but said i didnt own the other and the stupid cop said i owned both

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david walker - 1/11/02 at 08:55 PM

We must be lucky in Nottinghamshire.

The sequence I followed was:

1 - Make up own VIN Number
2 - Phone up Insurance Co and insure (using VIN Number)
3 - Drive to MOT station (pre-booked) - no number plates, MOT cert issued on VIN No.
4 - Drive to SVA station - no number plates
5 - Drive to VRO office - inspector not in - visited me at home day after (at no cost)
6 - Looked at only couple of receipts but studied photos.
7 - Phoned me day after with Reg No. so I could buy and fit plates. Docs followed in post.

By the way the Robin Hood method of establishing a VIN No was devised jointly between the Notts Inspector and Robin Hood. As far as the Notts VRO is concerned you can have any VIN number you want as long it is of sufficient digits.

I didn't get an age related plate as I had used wide variety of parts. If you use the back axle, gearbox, engine and rack from one donor, ie Escort or Cortina for example you'll get an age related plate. It is quite permissable to modify (and register) the form of the donor before stripping. Building your own chassis is irrelevant.

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