Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 05:38 PM |
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Carb air filter on injection?
Can anyone see any problems with using this K&N filter on my injection system, also how do you clean the filter?
 
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 05:56 PM |
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appart from looking a bit crap.... should be ok.... not sure why you'd bother with a sandwich filter.... just fit a cone (or panel filter if you
still got the airbox on)
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 05:58 PM |
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you got another filter... would they fit my twin 45's 
if you dont want them
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 06:48 PM |
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I have a sandwich filter, I havent got a cone.....Locost!!
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JoelP
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 06:49 PM |
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i thought that filter looked quite good. need summut like that myself i i want to avoid remaking the standard airbox to take a cone.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 07:01 PM |
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It's not fixed on yet, I have to check that there is enough room. I may make an adaptor in the shape of a funnel to smooth the air flow - would
this make any difference?
Still don't know how to clean the damn thing, suppose you just wash in petrol and re oil with 3 in 1 oil
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OX
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 07:13 PM |
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not sure if i would use petrol to clean it some hot soapy water normaly gets them clean once dry spray it with the proper k+n filter spray ,will look
good as new then m8
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 07:40 PM |
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Thanks, I will have to get some!
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givemethebighammer
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 08:36 PM |
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I know it sounds expensive but in my experience these manufacturers design their filters to be used with their own cleaning and re oiling products
otherwise they may not work properly. You may be able to find other cheaper products but at what cost ?
details on this site
http://www.bobsmuffler.com/knclean.htm
just my 10p's worth
ps - don't use compressed air to dry it either, it blows holes in the fabric !!!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 08:58 PM |
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Just what I needed Thanks
Mark
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 10:42 PM |
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Just had a thought.... how well does that filter guard against water ???
Airbox's and cones are usually good at stopping water... but is that sandwich filter ???
Just a thought if you fit a puddel and thats somewhere near "airy" it'll such a load of water up..... ???
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 10:55 PM |
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The air filter will be over the bellhousing, (I have lowered and reversed by plenum chamber so it should not be an issue unless I really go
swimming)
 
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 10:58 PM |
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gonna have bonnet vent/louvres ???
Might get a bit hot down there ????
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Stu16v
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 11:38 PM |
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Why would a sandwich filter be any worse than a cone filter for stopping water ingress into the engine???
Or are you assuming that the cone filter is fitted into the standard airbox?
Dont just build it.....make it!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 27/9/03 at 11:43 PM |
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No, but just wondered if it was the same or might be worse ??!?!?!
I know that i got water down a carb before that had one of them sandwich plates on.... so was just making sure
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 12:04 PM |
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At work we get pug 306 diesels in regular as clockwork with waterlogged engines, the air filter is behind the bumper on the N/S and the intake is low
down to take advantage of the cool air. Problem is that if you go through a ford, shallow flood, have a drive around the harbour at low tide (holiday
maker favorite), the engine sucks up gallons of water, then tries to compress it, bends a conrod or two and is consequently scrap. Sometuimes you can
get away with it if the revs were slow and noone has tried to restart, by removing the gloplugs and turning it over by hand to expell the water. Put
your hope in the great mechanic in the sky and fire it up. Either its starts OK and ejects loads of steam from the exhaust, or it rattles and jumps
about in the engine bay, or there is a loud bang.
I have only got 3 back on the road out of abot 20 (without replacing the engine, because the owner usually tries to crank it over after the stall)
Back to the thread, I will get it on the road and then see if I have a problem with hot air!
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 02:01 PM |
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lol nice story mate.
Yeah, all you can do is try it i guess
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CairB
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 05:01 PM |
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Mark,
I like your version of the EFIlump reduction. I have the inlet towards the rear. I used the standard air filter box with the bottom cut out mounted
with clearance on the plate over the passenger footwell. The lack of cool air in this location doesn't seem to be a complete no-no for getting
your car on the road, though directing cooler air may help in the umph stakes later.
There is one thing in your photo that you should watch out for, that is the increased vibration of the fuel regulator due to its reduced mounting
stiffness. I had problems with the pipe cracking where it came out of the fuel rail until I remotely mounted the regulator and fitted a flexible
between the outlet pipe on the fuel rail and the regulator.
Getting close now?
Cheers,
Colin
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 05:21 PM |
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Thanks for the tip about the reg, it is not in its final position because it fouls the nose cone! I will bear in mind about vibration - what sort of
pipe did you use?
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CairB
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 05:46 PM |
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Steel braided petrol pipe suitable for injection from local factors, it came with suitable clips.
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 08:14 PM |
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WIsh my local factors did steel braided petrol pipe 
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CairB
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 09:05 PM |
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Ben,
If you lived near me they would
I got mine from http://www.automechsport.com
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 09:20 PM |
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Cant seem to find any on there ?!?!?
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CairB
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 11:51 AM |
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Try giving them a ring - the web site does look a bit sparse.
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