Dangle_kt
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 09:13 PM |
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What rear axle is this? Bearings are shot - help plz
Hi!
Recently bought a locost with live rear axle fitted - unfortunatly the previous owner towed it when it was empty of oil - the bearings are now
knackered. I have not a lcue about cars, but I'm GOING for it - and I'm hoping that the kind souls on here will be able to advise me when
I'm stuck! 
Can anyone
a) advise what axle this is?
b) give me a rough ide of cost of replacement bearings?
c) give me a rough idea of time and difficulty involved in replacment of said bearings
This is going to be the first of loads of questions over the coming months (years?!?!?!) - so your help is greatly apprieciated guys. 
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 09:14 PM |
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rear axle
this might help! 
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ironside
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 09:29 PM |
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That looks like an English axle to me.
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24vseven
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 09:47 PM |
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yes looks english to me fitted to mk1 and 2 escorts anglias mk1 and 2 cortinas
chack part number KIT050:
here http://www.motoscope.co.uk/escort_mk1_2.htm#Rear_Suspension
under english axle
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 17/9/07 at 09:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 24vseven
yes looks english to me fitted to mk1 and 2 escorts anglias mk1 and 2 cortinas
chack part number KIT050:
here http://www.motoscope.co.uk/escort_mk1_2.htm#Rear_Suspension
under english axle
great post!
Many thanks!
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02GF74
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 08:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Can anyone
a) advise what axle this is?
English Axle, mk2 escort + others
b) give me a rough ide of cost of replacement bearings?
Dunno but would not expect to be more than £ 20 per side
c) give me a rough idea of time and difficulty involved in replacment of said bearingsyou need to remove the half-shafts - has been
discussed last week, then remove the collar on the 1/2 shafts - can be sawn or gound off followed by removal of bearings. The bearings should be
pressed on but the hard bit is refitting the collars - you would need a huge press to fit them or heat them to red hot and whilst they are expanded,
press them on. If that last part sounds quite daunting, then you can get half shafts from a couple of the parts people that advertise in Ford
spotters Monthly. Oh, and make sure you have fitted the retaining flange before fitting the bearings !!! 
This is going to be the first of loads of questions over the coming months (years?!?!?!) - so your help is greatly apprieciated guys.
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daviep
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 10:52 AM |
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Where about are you located?
If you are pulling the half shafts it might be a good idea to whip the diff out as well, it wouldn't like be towed with no oil in the axle.
Regards Davie
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 11:33 AM |
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quote:
If you are pulling the half shafts it might be a good idea to whip the diff out as well, it wouldn't like be towed with no oil in the axle.
ER you cant tow it with the shafts out anyway as the wheel hubs are part of the shaft, So no wheels no tow.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 11:38 AM |
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He would need to tow it an awful long way to knacker the bearings.
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 12:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
He would need to tow it an awful long way to knacker the bearings.
all i know is it had no oil in, he was towing it to get the engine mount plate welded in place and it came to a noisy stop on the motorway. It could
be pushed backwards but not go forward. he put it on a trailer and when he got it back home he was able to roll it forwards again - but it makes a
NASTY noise.
he assumed it was the bearings overheating (and once cooled allowing it to roll forwards again) and I think it makes sense.
maybe i'm wrong?
I'd love some advise please Mr Trident. thanks!
oh - i'm liverpool for the one who asked where im based.
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daviep
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 03:50 PM |
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"ER you cant tow it with the shafts out anyway as the wheel hubs are part of the shaft, So no wheels no tow. "
NO SHIT........maybe read the first post again.
Could possibly be a brake binding problem.
I would jack up the rear wheels and spin them by hand, they shouldn't be tight if the handbrake is released, also try shaking the wheels to
feel for any play before removing the wheels and brake drums. With both drums removed the axles should feel nice and smooth without any horrible
noises.
Regards Davie
[Edited on 18/9/07 by daviep]
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 04:39 PM |
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NO SHIT........maybe read the first post again.
AHHHHH point taken I presume your post was meaning to check the diff as it'd be cream crackered as well.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 18/9/07 at 06:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
.....or heat them to red hot and whilst they are expanded, press them on.
You can't put any heat into the bearings as they have rubber / plastic oil seals in them which will melt rather quickly!
You can of course heat the retaining collar to get that on as it's simply a ring of steel, but as you'll be pressing the bearings on
anyway you might as well get both done at the same time.
There is also the option to tack weld the collars on as a belt / braces to prevent the chance of a half shaft becoming detached from its bearing (and
so detached from the car), but I know at least one contributor on this thread disagrees with this approach so I won't open the discussion up
again, other than to say have a read of this thread and evaluate the pro's /
cons yourself and decide if it's for you or not.
cheers
Chris
[Edited on 18/9/07 by ChrisGamlin]
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02GF74
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| posted on 19/9/07 at 09:46 AM |
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^^^ re: heat.
Heat the collar not the bearings - they have a rubber seal.
I alsed about the tack weld, there was some discussion about this weakening the shafts but general consensus was that even so, very few popel
experinece this type of failure.
As ^^^ say, jack the rear wheels in turn ans turn them; test for play in bearings; maybe sticking some oil in the diff to oil the bearing may make the
problem go away?
could be dragging brake drums although as they heat up, then should become more free.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/9/07 at 10:23 AM |
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Nasty noise -- either the diff or the brakes
First thing to do is pull the drums off.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/9/07 at 10:28 AM |
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This is a good page of info - it's about back axle bearings on a Ford Crapi, but the only difference is the width...
LINKY
Just remember to drain out the oil before you start pulling half shafts... just don't ask how I found this out... 
[Edited on 19/9/07 by David Jenkins]
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britishtrident
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| posted on 19/9/07 at 12:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
This is a good page of info - it's about back axle bearings on a Ford Crapi, but the only difference is the width...
LINKY
Just remember to drain out the oil before you start pulling half shafts... just don't ask how I found this out...
[Edited on 19/9/07 by David Jenkins]
Good trick is to do one shaft bearing at a time ie jack up one side at time so the oil runs to other side ;-)
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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