donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 01:33 PM |
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wheel offset for steels
OK, i want some black wheels for my locost (in a few months time) and not so keen on alloys as every car has them so was wondering about steels
(painted matt black for that racing look!) which are (i have been told) lighter than alloys.
Most 13" wheels on ebay are for FWD escorts so i was wondering what would work. What offset are RS alloys? Looking for 6x13's or
7x13's but the correct offset so they stick out and fill the arches properly like this:
 
pasenger side rear
[Edited on 16/8/07 by donut]
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 01:39 PM |
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I have some black 14" steel wheels im not using but they were off my old civic. If they would fit you can have them 
Edit to say: Not sure what the offset is on them but il have a look when i get home if your interested
[Edited on 16-8-07 by speedyxjs]
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 01:42 PM |
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cheers but i would rather stick with 13" unless i can't find any then i may be stuck with 14's.
Talking of 14's i really like and would use the sierra steels which have big holes rather than a row of small holes all the way round. Anyone
got a pic of them or any they don't want? Down souf if poss!
I think they are off a LX
NOT like these std sierra wheels:
[Edited on 16/8/07 by donut]
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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oadamo
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 01:52 PM |
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i was looking for some steel wheels a while back like the star mag wheels on the minis. i couldnt find any anywhere so i cut up some steel rims and
welded a band in to make them wider. then had the center lazer cut and welded them back in they look the biz.but iam not to sure if there ok to use
but they look good  .
adam
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 01:56 PM |
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Banded wheels eh!! The Old Skool Ford lot use them and yes they look very nice but i'm not sure they're legal.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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oadamo
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by donut
Banded wheels eh!! The Old Skool Ford lot use them and yes they look very nice but i'm not sure they're legal.
iam not sure them safe thats why ive not put them on my car pmsl.plus i welded them
adam
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:17 PM |
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You will have a great deal of trouble finding road legal tyres at a sensible price for 7"x13" wheels.
Steel wheels are usually twice the weight a decent alloy wheel and more than 3 times heavier than a really good design of competition alloy.
It is true some alloys wheels are very heavy but g** knows what alloy they are made from.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:19 PM |
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Banded wheels, they died out in the mid1970s --- nasty dangerous things now highly illegal.
quote:
Originally posted by oadamo
quote:
Originally posted by donut
Banded wheels eh!! The Old Skool Ford lot use them and yes they look very nice but i'm not sure they're legal.
iam not sure them safe thats why ive not put them on my car pmsl.plus i welded them
adam
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:19 PM |
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I have been told by a few mechanics that steels are usually lighter, hey ho!!
Maybe 14's with 185/60/14's will be ok?
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:21 PM |
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What about Wellers? Up to 10x13!
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Coose
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
You will have a great deal of trouble finding road legal tyres at a sensible price for 7"x13" wheels.
Toyo R888s in 185 or 205-60-13 seem to work fine on 7 x 13" wheels!
Spin 'er off Well...
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:24 PM |
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Ahhh yes!! Wellers, forgot about them! They do racing wheels in all sizes if i remember. Nice one!
So whats the offset for escort rs alloys? or what offset would i need?
[Edited on 16/8/07 by donut]
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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indykid
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:30 PM |
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afaik, they're et15/16
tom
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:34 PM |
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How about these:
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:35 PM |
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is 15 more "sticky out" than 16? You can tell i'm really technically minded can't you!
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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whitestu
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:51 PM |
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quote:
Talking of 14's i really like and would use the sierra steels which have big holes rather than a row of small holes all the way round. Anyone got
a pic of them or any they don't want? Down souf if poss!
Like these?
I've got four of them if you want them - they're even black already.
Stu
 
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 02:56 PM |
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dont quote me but I think you can fit ford offset wheels back to front to get pug type offset so they sit out further.
my robinhood needs a pug offset and I read of at least one chap who fitted ford steels the wrong way round. may have been just to set the car on the
ground tho rather than actually drive on them.
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 03:03 PM |
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Stu
looks interesting, ot the ones i was thinking about but they would be ok. Were they off a Sierra?
I'm going on me hols for a few weeks tomorow so i'll keep them in mind.
Cheers
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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whitestu
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 03:12 PM |
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Hi
They are off a Sierra - a 90 sapphire LX.
I'm on hols as well for a couple of weeks, so if you want them get in touch early September.
Cheers
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 03:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by donut
I have been told by a few mechanics that steels are usually lighter, hey ho!!
Maybe 14's with 185/60/14's will be ok?
Some alloy wheels sold bundled with tyres by fast fit centre are very heavy, so heavy I suspect underneath the stove enameling lies cast steel.
Alumium alloy is roughly 1/3 the weight of the same volume of steel, however it has lower mechanical properties, but if you double the thickness you
can more than double bending stiffness. Magnesium alloy is an even better material.
It would amaze you how light an alloy wheel & tyre for a single seater racing car can be.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 03:20 PM |
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Iistr D Type wheels were magnesium apart from the bit for the peg drive.
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
How about these:
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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JAG
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 03:41 PM |
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Have a look HERE for light weight Weller steel wheels.
Just for reference one of my 14" alloy wheels with a 185/60 tyre weighs 13kg.
Justin
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Rosemary, the telephone operator? ...No.
Penry, the mild-mannered janitor? ...Could be!
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donut
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 04:56 PM |
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whitestu
Cheers, i'll have a think and i'll be in touch.
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/andywest1/
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GeoffB
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| posted on 16/8/07 at 07:01 PM |
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i tried going down the 13x 5.5 j steels with 185 x 60tyres and they weighed about 11kgs each and becuae of the way they were made i had clearence
problems even using standard cliapers
i am now using the wheels you have in youre first picture in 13 x6 with 185 x 60 yokos a48r and they weighed 9.5 kg each
you might have to adjust youre front arches a bit, but i only needed to lightly take a file to the front claipers and they worked a treat. and i
painted them black and they look the muts
[Edited on 16/8/07 by GeoffB]
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