westf27
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 12:28 PM |
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Do my plugs look ok
Got the car running quite well now after months faffing around with weber 40's off an old holbay engine.Not the best versions 34/35.Any
criticisms or comments on the plug pics appreciated.Should point out that the two which appear richer are out of the right hand carb on each bank.My
engine is inclined towards the front 4.5 degrees
 
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westf27
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 12:33 PM |
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another pic
the soft sooty plug body is this normal when the middle appears ok
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RazMan
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 12:43 PM |
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No problems there as far as I can see - classic biscuit brown colour with no deposits.  Number 3 looks a little leaner but nothing to worry about.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 12:46 PM |
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Hello,
The engine tuning book I have read suggested that you can't tune an engine on the look of the plugs. It's more that the plug temperature
determines there state..
i.e plugs cold = deposits,
plugs hot = no diposits,
plugs to hot = danger of cracking etc..
i.e. you tune the engine then fit the apporate plugs that should then look "good". So there "state" only determines how far
out of tune the engine is from its fully tuned state with apoporate plugs.
Any way I am no expert, just a thought...
This site puts it better than I could: plugs
Hope I'm not telling you how to suck eggs!
This might help two: plug colors..
Dan
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Andy S
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 02:35 PM |
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Unfortuneately - the pictures tells us very little - was this after 10 minutes idling or at full power for 10 minutes or at part throttle?
or a run round the block doing all the above.
The centre isolator and electrode just say that the plug heat is correct for preventing the plug fouling at whatever way you ran the engine before
removing them - the outer ring that is more representative of the combustion chamber says that its too rich at that point.
Find a place where you can give it full power for 10 seconds or more and shut it off immediately and coast to a stop and remove them. This will give a
better idea of what is happening.
Cheers
Andrew
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 05:25 PM |
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MMMMMMMMMM the picture tells me you need to throw them crappy champion plugs in the bin and fit NGK No1 plugs
i could tell the story as to why but i dont want to bore peeps
Fit NGK you will notice the difference
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Peteff
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 07:00 PM |
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Yes fit some NGK plugs
A set of Champion lasted 3 weeks in my pinto engine and a new set of HT leads was fitted before I changed the plugs as I thought it couldn't
possibly be faulty plugs. How wrong I was.  NGK are still going strong.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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lotustwincam
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 07:32 PM |
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Reading Spark Plugs
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westf27
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 08:24 PM |
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it is strange,but when the engine gets hot it does appear to be unstable on idle,ok on drive.Very stable idle all the way to max temp.Could this be
plugs,is the fault typical of champion and why ngk are better
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DRC INDY 7
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| posted on 19/6/07 at 09:07 PM |
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Goes back to the days of crypton tunning i once had a sierra taxi in for tune up says its not running smooth and eats fuel told me he had put a set of
new plugs in 2 days before i asked him what type he said champion plugs mmm i said not very good told him i could get his car running very smooth by
just changing the plugs to NGK told him that if they didnt make a difference then he could have them free having allready tested the plugs for many
years in vehicles and never having a faulty one i proceeded to check the co and hc level which at the time was 3.5%co and 1200ppmHC
I replaced the plugs just did a check on the timing no adjustment needed brought the vehicle up to working temp re-checked the co and hc which were
2%co and 100ppmHC point proven to mister taxi driver and he was converted plus got a refund on the crappy champion plugs
There endeth my long boring story one of many in the motor trade 
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