phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 08:23 AM |
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What clutch slave cylinder will Fit
Morning all,
I pretty busy making a floor mounted pedalbox. I want to fit a hydraulic clutch, but what slave cylinder will easily fit to a type 9 box?
Thanx
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 09:28 AM |
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Why?
If you want to do away with a cable, use a pull rod system - light weight, totally reliable and very effective and smooth.
See here.
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John P
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 09:31 AM |
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Floor Mounted Pedal Box
This is something I'm looking at but I can't see how to avoid hydraulic operation with floor mounted pedals since you end up with a push
rather than a pull.
Incidentally, I believe a Saab slave cylinder is the one to use.
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 09:47 AM |
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Thanks for the reply's,
@lsdweb: It looks very nice, but it wouldn't fit on my car. I want to use a hydraulic to so I can make the peal box fully adjustable (ie. pedal
ratio, pedal position, and box position)
@John P: I've read all the post about the hydraulic clutch. What i understand is that the saab one is a bearing kind of thing that has to be
mounted on the shaft. I am looking for a bold-on solution.
Maybe someone has pictures about such an installation?
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 09:48 AM |
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John P
My pedal box was floor mounted! I used the Fisher pedal box which has the pivot for the brake and clutch pedals about an inch or two above the floor,
with the connection for the cable below the pivot - I just connected my pullrod to that point.
I'd post a picture but I've sold the car - sorry!
I've enclosed a rough sketch.
Wyn
 
Rescued attachment clutch.JPG
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 09:50 AM |
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phaeton - I've just realised that you're not in the UK so you'll be left hand drive and the pullrod wouldn't be that easy to
implement - sorry!
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John P
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:30 AM |
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lsdweb
Thanks for the sketch.
I've had a look on-line at the Fisher pedal box but it looks as though the clutch is as you describe but the brake is pivoted at the bottom in a
more conventional way.
This would mean the two pedals pivot around different points.
Does this feel OK when driving? If so then I'll probably go this route although I may still stick with a cable.
John P
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:41 AM |
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What slave cylinder should I (see pic's)
 
Rescued attachment clutchslave1.jpg
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:41 AM |
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or this one
 
Rescued attachment girling clutch slave.jpg
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:43 AM |
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Has anyone experience with them, and how do they fit on a type 9 box?
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Daxrushv6
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:47 AM |
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Hi i'm using the saab concentric slave, you can buy all the parts from burton power but that works out expensive so i got the saab slave which
has 3 bolts and made an adaptor which bolts to the gearbox.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 10:57 AM |
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The co-axial Saab cylinder is the ideal solution but if you want conventional type look at the Honda Accord/Rover 600 cylinder.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 11:07 AM |
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John P
The Fisher pedal box was fine - I've had two of them (Fisher Fury Spyder & Locost) you can't feel the difference between the brake and
clutch - if you hadn't mentioned it I would never have thought of it!
It was also a very nicely made item and not a bad price either for a balance bar pedal box.
Phaeton - sorry for hijacking your thread!
Regards
Wyn
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 11:15 AM |
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So the saab clutch slave IS a externally bold on cylinder?
On what type saab it was used? So i can get it from the saab dealer.
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ned
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 11:17 AM |
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I'm using a tilton concentric slave cylinder that I picked up second hand, but as others have posted the saab one can be adapted and is
available from scrappies quite cheaply..
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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britishtrident
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 11:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phaeton
So the saab clutch slave IS a externally bold on cylinder?
On what type saab it was used? So i can get it from the saab dealer.
No the Saab cylinder fits inside the bellhousing over the input/first motion shaft.
It has an alloy body (I think cast iron version also exist) see this URL
http://www.apracing.com/car/slave/push.htm
Other cylinders of this type are available eg Ford Mondeo and Rover and I am sure BMW Mini but they are made of plastic.
In the UK the cheapest sources are the specialist aftermarket SAAB parts specialists.
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phaeton
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 11:45 AM |
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I'm really looking for a external bolt-on type of device (i don't want to get the gearbox out).
Has anyone experience with girling or wilwood ones (see pic's prev page)?
And which one is the easiest to mount/ best choice?
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 12:44 PM |
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The BIL uses a wilwwod one on the hotrod with an XE engine and Type 9. It seems to work just fine but is vulnerable (position) to grit and salt etc.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 27/2/06 at 01:08 PM |
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I know it't not really what you are looking for, but here's my Saab cylinder on type 9 gearbox setup.
Cylinder is 1985 Saab 900 2.0, around £40 new from a spares shop. Release bearing is also saab 900, £15.
Cylinder is mounted an an alloy block machined by myself from a lump donated to me for free, so that was cheap!
 
cr1
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retro car restoration and tuning
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