James
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 01:27 AM |
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Mounting Pinto- still!
Dumb question time again but I'm still attempting to get my '205' Pinto mounted.
I've played around with the donor mounts but they're far to space greedy and ugly lookin!
Therefore I'm making my own with 50x50x3mm tubing mounted at 45° with a Fiesta gearbox mount (MK style).
I've noticed that the mount points are different each side on the block ie. the drivers side points project an extra (approx) 30mm.
Clearly, therefore, to keep the engine central the mounts need to be different. What I want to know is would it be better to make one mount longer
than the other or to have the chassis mount points in different places?
It may of course not matter and as usual I'm worrying about nothing! But I'm slightly concerned about the handling effect (if any!) of having the
mounts in different places.
Thanks,
James
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Rorty
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 03:49 AM |
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James, always put the engine/gearbox where they need to be, and then bring the mounts to them.
If you get the engine in position on blocks of wood or whatever, then you can anchor it by bolting bits of offcuts to any available points, and
tacking the other ends of the scrap to the chassis (the tack welds can be ground off flush later).
Using the same PU bushes you use for the wishbone brackets on the chassis, attach them to the engine. Then it's a simple case of welding a length of
tube from the bush onto the chassis.
Unbolt the anchors, and job's done! 
Head like a sieve! AND I can't attach a pic when editing...damn!
[Edited on 9/1/03 by Rorty]
Cheers, Rorty.
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Rorty
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 03:57 AM |
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Here's the pic I meant to attach to my last post! 
Although it's a very short mount, and it's a transaxle, you can still see the idea.
 
Rescued attachment VW gear linkage.jpg
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
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bob
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 05:28 AM |
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JAMES
MY MK eng mounts are both the same length,but the end plate that bolts to eng is set at an angle.
As bob said earlier once the eng and box are in position take the mounts to it,seems good advice mate
[Edited on 9/1/03 by bob]
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scutter
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 08:44 AM |
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Bob, don't you visit your bed? what are you doing up at that hour?
All the best Dan.
P.S. off to Essex to pick up my cylinder head
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James
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 10:56 AM |
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Rorty,
Don't worry I'm not trying to do it without the engine/gearbox in the chassis! this Xmas is the first time my chassis and engine have ever been
together though! Making a car in 3 different places is not easy!
Anyway, interesting idea. Hadn't thought of mounts done that way. Is a wishbone bush beefy enough for a beast like the Pinto?
(Although having said that they've gotta be good enough when the suspension is fitted! )
Bob,
Thanks again, when you say angle, do you mean the when facing the side of the engine the plate is 'twisted' (as in to match the mount holes that not
in a 'square' layout) or do you mean something else?
Thanks,
James
[Edited on 9/1/03 by James]
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bob
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 07:37 PM |
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Bob,
Thanks again, when you say angle, do you mean the when facing the side of the engine the plate is 'twisted' (as in to match the mount holes that not
in a 'square' layout) or do you mean something else?
Thanks,
James
yep not in a square layout
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Northy
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 09:22 PM |
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Are suspension bushes good enough to use for the engine mounts?
What do others use?
Thanks
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing! 
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bob
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| posted on 9/1/03 at 09:54 PM |
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James
I've been corrected by my new mate at mac1,your right they are different lengths to offset the eng.
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Rorty
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 05:19 AM |
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James:
quote:
Is a wishbone bush beefy enough for a beast like the Pinto?
PU is virtually indestructable. Two of the suspension bushes mounted in the manner I described, were strong enough for the engine mounts for a 4.9
RV8 I put in a Beetle, and also for the front and side engine mounts on a Porsche 911 turbo mid mounted in another Beetle.
Cheers, Rorty.
"Faster than a speeding Pullet".
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Duncan
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| posted on 10/1/03 at 09:06 PM |
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They also stop the engine shaking around like a chivers jelly
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Northy
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| posted on 11/1/03 at 09:58 PM |
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Cheers lads,
I'm going to use PU bushes, but some a bit larger diameter for piece of mind.
Thanks
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
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