TrophyJem
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 07:27 PM |
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Duratec alternator reposition
I need to swap the alternator on my Duratec install to the exhaust side, but I can't work out what I need to do the job (cheaply).
The current set up is as per the piccy below, but I can't make this fit on my install.
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hootsno1
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 08:23 PM |
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I may be able to help you out I made my own brackets to fit mine on the exhaust side but it failed on the steering shaft I'm back in my workshop
tomorrow and will see if i can find them.
If you are you using the duratec alternator as i still have the original to.
Cheers
Mark
[Edited on 1/3/14 by hootsno1]
If a little hammer won't fix it get a bigger hammer
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 08:29 PM |
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I hadn't considered the steering column. I need to check that.
The alternator itself bolts straight on the exhaust side. It's the belt I can't work out.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 08:33 PM |
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Not a proper duratec but the lay out should still work.
[Edited on 1/3/14 by big_wasa]
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hootsno1
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 09:26 PM |
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This is what it looks like in a mondeo but this one has an dry sump.
http://www.retro-ford.co.uk/shop/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/duratec%20belt%20run%20.jpg
I should still have all the parts you may need if you still want to put it on the exhaust side still.
If a little hammer won't fix it get a bigger hammer
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 09:32 PM |
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Blimey that's mad.
3 extra pulleys than I have already 
But I definitely have to change as I haven't got room the other side.
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peter030371
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 10:05 PM |
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Would a smaller alternator fit?
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 10:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by peter030371
Would a smaller alternator fit?
It probably would but small alternators seem to be expensive.
I was trying to stop my continuous spend on this engine swap
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 1/3/14 at 10:42 PM |
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Firstly I did this using a Micra alternator and its far to bnig to fit
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micra alternator - too big
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I then realised I needed to spend a bit of cash and used a denso alternator like this
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ND Alternator
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Unfortunately there are no short cuts when building a Duratec set up.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 10:53 AM |
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Thanks for the pictures.
Do you know what denso alternator you bought?
Was it expensive?
Cheers
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 12:57 PM |
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Funily enough it was 2nd hand off a Westfield.
However you can get them off Diahatsu Charade and other models or you can buy new from Brise.
Mine was about £40.00 I think.
Keep away from the Kubota ones they are not designed to spin at high rpm.
Duratec Engine is fitted, MS2 Extra V3 is assembled and tested, engine running, car now built. IVA passed 26/02/2016
http://www.triangleltd.com
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itsawindupuk
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 03:02 PM |
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what about a standard alternator that comes with the mondeo / fiesta st? That's what I used.
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 03:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by itsawindupuk
what about a standard alternator that comes with the mondeo / fiesta st? That's what I used.
That's what I have at the moment, but I haven't got the room for it where it is on the throttle body side of the engine. I have room for
it on the exhaust side, but I would need the 3 extra wheels to do that.
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itsawindupuk
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 03:38 PM |
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mine is on exhaust side, with just 2 small pulleys and one tensioner.
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 04:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by itsawindupuk
mine is on exhaust side, with just 2 small pulleys and one tensioner.
Any chance you could take a picture of your pulley arrangement?
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pjay
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 04:16 PM |
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That's what I have at the moment, but I haven't got the room for it where it is on the throttle body side of the engine. I have
room for it on the exhaust side, but I would need the 3 extra wheels to do that.
Why 3 extra wheels? The standard Mondeo arrangement is as follows (shown with PS and AC pumps removed on the inlet side):
 
Description
On the exhaust side you'd need a back driven pulley (top) and a tensioner (bottom). If you're thinking of a pulley on the inlet side at
the bottom I've been running without one for a number years without a problem - as follows:
 
Aux drive belt set up
Having said that you'd still have the cost of the back driven pulley and tensioner approx. £25 back driven pulley and tensioner £32 -
FORD FIESTA MK6/7 2.0 DURATEC ST150 DRIVEBELT TENSIONER ORIGINAL FORD 04-08
HTHs
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TrophyJem
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 04:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by pjay
quote:
That's what I have at the moment, but I haven't got the room for it where it is on the throttle body side of the engine. I have
room for it on the exhaust side, but I would need the 3 extra wheels to do that.
Why 3 extra wheels? The standard Mondeo arrangement is as follows (shown with PS and AC pumps removed on the inlet side):
Description
On the exhaust side you'd need a back driven pulley (top) and a tensioner (bottom). If you're thinking of a pulley on the inlet side at
the bottom I've been running without one for a number years without a problem - as follows:
Aux drive belt set up
Having said that you'd still have the cost of the back driven pulley and tensioner approx. £25 back driven pulley and tensioner £32 -
FORD FIESTA MK6/7 2.0 DURATEC ST150 DRIVEBELT TENSIONER ORIGINAL FORD 04-08
HTHs
Thanks that's just what I needed.
It's just which route is cheaper now.
So much money to be spent on this duratec conversion!
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pjay
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| posted on 2/3/14 at 04:54 PM |
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Yep a Duratec conversion can take it's toll on the wallet! Hasn't stopped me opting for a Duratec again though.
Just another thought - you'd end up with two tensioners, bottom left and top right with what I said in my previous post. I'd suggest going
for a second back driven pulley as I did mounted using aluminium drilled and spaced as required.
[Edited on 2/3/14 by pjay]
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neilp1
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| posted on 4/3/14 at 07:58 PM |
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This is my set-up.
 
Description
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