pekwah1
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| posted on 11/12/13 at 11:25 PM |
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Zetec fuel setup recommendations
Hi Guys,
I'm going to be installing a blacktop Zetec soon, only bits left to get are the fuel pump(s) and swirl pot.
It's going to be running on stock ECU without any mods to the engine.
I'm currently running an xflow, so i don't have any of the fuel parts i need for the Zetec.
So i know there are 2 options which will cause a lot of debate:
1. Bike style fuel pump with built in swirl pot
Would something like a GSXR1000 pump be ok?
2. low pressure and high pressure pump and a remote swirl pot
I think i'm ok with the low pressure pump, but what high pressure pump should i be looking for and what size swirl pot?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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daveb666
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 08:08 AM |
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I have a lift pump, 1 or (1.5) litre swirl pot and then the high pressure pump:
HP Pump
 
Description
Swirl Pot and Lift Pump (just to the right of the steering column)
 
Description
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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hughpinder
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:13 AM |
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Landrover/MGF style pump with integal pot? like this one:
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.4x4wire.com/rover/maintenance/fuelpumpinstall/newpump.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.4x4wire.com/rover/ma
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[Edited on 12/12/13 by hughpinder]
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ChrisLeary
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:32 AM |
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Hi Andy,
I use a GSXR 1000 in tank pump with a built in sump and fuel level sender. They can be had for reasonably cheap off ebay, and they're really
quiet too.
It's a clever system too, the pump has a fuel pressure regulator built in, so you don't need one further down the line and you don't
need a return to the tank. So only one fuel line running forward to the engine bay.
I've got a spare pump, but it doen't have a sender unit on it if it's of any help?
Regards,
Chris
Don't force it! Get a bigger hammer...
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pekwah1
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:37 AM |
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Thanks for the info, i was thinking about a bike pump, have read a few threads which kind of rubbish the idea and say you should have proper pumps and
a remote swirl pot, but then have also read plenty with people using bike pumps.
If we don't need a return line back to the tank, what do you do with the return on the Zetec engine? Do you just block it off and is that a
wise thing to do?
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daveb666
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:39 AM |
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I have a return to the tank - goes from the top of my swirl pot.
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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ChrisLeary
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:40 AM |
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I'm using GSXR TB's with just an input into the fuel rail. So I'm not really sure what you'd do with the standard kit<
apologies, I should of read your OP more accurately.
Maybe someone else will be along to explain what you could do with the OEM fuel rail.
Chris
Don't force it! Get a bigger hammer...
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pekwah1
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 09:47 AM |
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I would assume that even if the bike pump has a regulator, i can still just run a return line anyway.
If i've got a return it needs to go somewhere so could just stick it in the top of the tank!
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daveb666
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 10:30 AM |
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Mine goes:
Tank
Lift Pump
Swirl Pot
Filter
HP Pump
Fuel Rail In
Fuel Rail Out
Fuel Reg In
Fuel Reg Out
Swirl Pot
Tank
That's with GSXR tbs using an ST170 manifold.
2007bc Photography - Commercial and Wedding Photographer based in West Yorkshire
http://www.2007bc.co.uk / http://www.huddersfieldcommercialphotographer.co.uk
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Paul Turner
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| posted on 12/12/13 at 10:40 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daveb666
Mine goes:
Tank
Lift Pump
Swirl Pot
Filter
HP Pump
Fuel Rail In
Fuel Rail Out
Fuel Reg In
Fuel Reg Out
Swirl Pot
Tank
That's with GSXR tbs using an ST170 manifold.
Mine is exactly the same with the exception of the bodies and manifold, I use a standard weber type manifold and Jenveys.
The lift pump I use is a Facet Redtop. The HP pump is an FSE of some description, the filter is the FSE bullet type with replaceable elements.
Make sure you get the best fuels pipes you can. Most modern rubber is total rubbish even if it does say it meets the BS requirements, lucky my car did
not go up in flames when I had several LP pipes start leaking all on the same day. Mine is all piped with TFE hose and fittings from Think Automotive
now with the exception of the 12mm pipes between the bottom of the swirlpot and the filter and the filter and HP pump. These are in the
"correct" spec rubber from FSE but after 3 years they show signs of cracking, replace every 2 years now since access is easy.
My swirl pot came from Allyfab in Bolsover, Derbyshire.
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