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ali f27

posted on 14/3/12 at 10:28 PM Reply With Quote
duratec clutch

Hi looking for cheapest way to put clutch in my car basically pinto clutch on duratec flywheel tell me what you have all done and what combie,s work
Cheers Ali

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Tiger Super Six

posted on 14/3/12 at 10:41 PM Reply With Quote
RWD duratec flywheel takes a pinto clutch, that's what I used.





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ali f27

posted on 14/3/12 at 10:57 PM Reply With Quote
So you are running a standard pinto clutch has it been ok
Ali

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Tiger Super Six

posted on 14/3/12 at 11:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ali f27
So you are running a standard pinto clutch has it been ok
Ali


The clutch on my pinto had been in the car for 5 years so I bought a new one whilst it was apart which I think was good for power up to 220bhp. In standard form the engine will make about 175-185bhp so a normal clutch in good condition should be fine.





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ali f27

posted on 14/3/12 at 11:28 PM Reply With Quote
Hi were did you get you clutch must be an uprated one
Ali

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ali f27

posted on 14/3/12 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
We use twin plate cermetalic one on race car but would be murder on the road
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laptoprob

posted on 15/3/12 at 07:30 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ali f27
Hi were did you get you clutch must be an uprated one
Ali


Doesnt need to be uprated for that type of power in a kit car due to weight.

Should be fine upto 200 bhp.

I used a Sierra 1.6 plate in a Redtop setup at 180 bhp with no probs.





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big-vee-twin

posted on 15/3/12 at 07:45 AM Reply With Quote
What you need is an heavy duty Pinto clutch friction plate from Burton made by AP racing.

I then used an uprated RS Turbo pressure plate which fitted onto the flywheel, mine was an ST150 fly. You can also use an early Zetec pressure plate.

My pressure plate was made by techniclutch.

When you have your pressure plate you may need to trim the length of the fingers so they don't interfere with the thrust bearing guide tube.





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hootsno1

posted on 15/3/12 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
I have used a h/d pinto clutch and a pinto fast road plate £155 delivered as it won't need to be changed if I want to up the power in the future.





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Tiger Super Six

posted on 15/3/12 at 09:29 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ali f27
Hi were did you get you clutch must be an uprated one
Ali


As mentioned above, I bought the AP racing friction and cover plate which is good to that type of power, so in a lightweight car was probably ok even a bit higher. I bought mine from Ian at RWD so he should have all the info and part numbers as I was the first one that bought it from him (there was a lot of buggering about as he had copied the part numbers from raceline so I bought it from them and then it didn't fit. I then found out that this was a k series clutch and had to speak with Burtons, RWD and Raceline to make sure the next one was correct!).





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FuryRebuild

posted on 15/3/12 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
I went with Ian's recommendations at RWD. I'm aiming for 210 so went for the uprated AP clutch and pressure plate.

In order to get the engine back aways, I also opted for hydraulic clutch.

Interestingly Ian doesn't supply the cylinders, so will need to order one from somewhere - any recommendations?

Thanks
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redeye

posted on 15/3/12 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
Im using a lightweight steel flywheel, AP racing clutch cover and HD pinto pressure plate

and for the cylinder I used this from ebay


MONDEO COUGAR CLUTCH SLAVE CYLINDER V6 ENGINE 5 SPEED | eBay

Couldnt find it cheaper anywhere else.

hope this helps.

Patrick

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FuryRebuild

posted on 15/3/12 at 11:27 AM Reply With Quote
Ahh - it's the master cylinder I need. RWD have supplied the slave.

It seems land or range rover cylinders are as cheap as chips - they're out there for under £15

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redeye

posted on 15/3/12 at 11:34 AM Reply With Quote
ah I see

Well there are a number of places that will sell the master cylinder

OBP, Rally design, EDS Motorsport to name but a few

Patrick

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itsawindupuk

posted on 23/3/12 at 09:30 AM Reply With Quote
For my conversion im using an early mondeo 1.8 zetec plate and the st150 pressure plate. I have no guide tube on gearbox so the fingers don't get in the way.
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big-vee-twin

posted on 23/3/12 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
I assume you are using a T5 box, does the ST150 plate fit that?

If you are using a hydraulic slave cylinder they have a guide tube built in which can interfere with the 'fingers'





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itsawindupuk

posted on 23/3/12 at 08:40 PM Reply With Quote
ah yes but im using the ford mondeo v6 type slave which doesnt have the tube. Raceline sell them but you can get them new on ebay much less. Just have to knock up a bleed hose and inlet hose. Im using a type 9 v6 capri box as it has bigger bearings. Standard fiesta st cover plate, works a treat as ive been test driving the car, my master cylinder is too big though so very high biting point (using .75" master).
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itsawindupuk

posted on 23/3/12 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
if i figure out how to upload a pic ill do it


[img]C:\Users\Adam\Documents\Duratec\Photos\my duratec\07122010180[/img]

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big-vee-twin

posted on 24/3/12 at 09:23 AM Reply With Quote
You need to put your pics in your photo archive on here then link to them

Here's mine using all Titan kit

[img] Duratec clutch cylinder
Duratec clutch cylinder
[/img]

[Edited on 24/3/12 by big-vee-twin]





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big-vee-twin

posted on 24/3/12 at 09:31 AM Reply With Quote
Oh and before I forget this is quite an important bolt.

Please, Please make sure if you are using a type 9 that there is a bolt in your bell housing in the position shown.

This will stop your layshaft from moving forward into the space in the back of the bell housing and dropping out causing all sorts of damage.

The original T5 Bell is flat on the back to hold the shaft in place - Something that RWD fail to explain, and sometimes forget to put the bolt in. Titan dont either!!!


[img] Layshaft retaining bolt
Layshaft retaining bolt
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FuryRebuild

posted on 24/3/12 at 01:14 PM Reply With Quote
Just got my bell housing. No problems. Nice black bolt in there supplied and fitted.





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itsawindupuk

posted on 29/3/12 at 11:37 AM Reply With Quote
i wish mine had that bolt, may need a new gearbox now, that might explain why i sometimes had trouble finding gears and that 4th popped out a lot.
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