scootz
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:17 PM |
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Pre-94 V8's
My Audi RS4 V8 engine adventure was a lot of fun, but it was a money-drainer as I was taking a path less-travelled and everything was bespoke.
I quite fancy dong another engine, but this time an old-school (pre-94) V8.
The core engine must be a cheapie and the engine-type must have a healthy aftermarket parts supply and knowledge-base.
So what's the best choices? The two that immediately spring to mind are the Small Block Chevy and the Rover V8.
RV8 is lighter, but it has less power-potential than the SBC. Also, SBC tuning parts are plentiful and probably a bit cheaper than the RV8. Is that
a good enough reason to go SBC, or does the RV8 offer anything else that I've missed?
Any other V8 suggestions?
Cheers!
It's Evolution Baby!
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stevec
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:27 PM |
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What about pre 64?
 
Daimler Hemi
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sdh2903
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:29 PM |
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Lexus LS400 engine? something like 250 hp as standard? All alloy engine, I think there were pre 94 cars anyway? Cheap as chips on ebay too
[Edited on 10/8/11 by sdh2903]
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Wadders
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:33 PM |
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Suppose it depends what you want to do with it, and what power output you want etc, other than the two you've already mentioned what about a 302
Ford.? Quite compact for a yank V8 and very tuneable, IIRC you can use a 351 crank to make a stroker engine.
Or maybe the AJP V8 as used in the TVR Cerbera, flat plane crank, so sound lovely (might be deep pockets time again with this one!)
Al.
]Originally posted by scootz
My Audi RS4 V8 engine adventure was a lot of fun, but it was a money-drainer as I was taking a path less-travelled and everything was bespoke.
I quite fancy dong another engine, but this time an old-school (pre-94) V8.
The core engine must be a cheapie and the engine-type must have a healthy aftermarket parts supply and knowledge-base.
So what's the best choices? The two that immediately spring to mind are the Small Block Chevy and the Rover V8.
RV8 is lighter, but it has less power-potential than the SBC. Also, SBC tuning parts are plentiful and probably a bit cheaper than the RV8. Is that
a good enough reason to go SBC, or does the RV8 offer anything else that I've missed?
Any other V8 suggestions?
Cheers!
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Wadders
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:36 PM |
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Is that a Daimler 2.5 Hemi ? used to be a favourite to go in ford pops.....Very 
Originally posted by stevec
What about pre 64?
Daimler Hemi
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevec
What about pre 64?
Daimler Hemi
I was going to suggest that. I have heard several roumers that many hundreds of horses are avaliable.
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plentywahalla
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:41 PM |
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Merc M119 ??
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stevec
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:42 PM |
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I am half way through a rebuild on it at the moment, nice engine and not huge.
Theres a few more pics in my archive of the block etc. And my type 9 conversion to Daimler V8.
It would look cool with throttle bodies.
Steve.
[Edited on 10/8/11 by stevec]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 06:44 PM |
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SBC is the way to go. Cheap as chips, and most of them are pre 94 as well. I am currently building one up 
The biggest small block was a 400cu (6.6litre) but there was also a BB made in that capacity too. The 350 has the most tuning parts available, but
many are interchangeable to the 305 as the engines are identical other than bore and combustion chamber volumes.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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scootz
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 07:15 PM |
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Cheers fella's!
It's Evolution Baby!
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swanny
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 07:17 PM |
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sbc for me too if i had to choose again.
cheaper bits, easier stock hp and gains
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zilspeed
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 07:51 PM |
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Chevy.
Power for those starts around where it costs a fortune to get a Rover V8 to.
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scootz
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 08:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
Or maybe the AJP V8 as used in the TVR Cerbera, flat plane crank, so sound lovely (might be deep pockets time again with this one!)
The AJP V8 is an absolute stormer and would be top of my list if there were any pre-94 ones.
It's Evolution Baby!
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 08:48 PM |
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This is gonna be some trike!
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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scootz
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 08:51 PM |
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Nooooooooooooo!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Wadders
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| posted on 10/8/11 at 09:46 PM |
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Fair point, think the cerbie misses your deadline by a year or two  why the cut off of 94 btw ?
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
Or maybe the AJP V8 as used in the TVR Cerbera, flat plane crank, so sound lovely (might be deep pockets time again with this one!)
The AJP V8 is an absolute stormer and would be top of my list if there were any pre-94 ones.
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scootz
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 08:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
... why the cut off of 94 btw ?
Emissions regs.
It's Evolution Baby!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 08:37 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
... why the cut off of 94 btw ?
Emissions regs.
but that deppends what chassis you put it in....
if the chassis has a pre 94 reg, then you can fit whatever engine you like and still use pre 94 emissions at the test
(the engine age only matters for IVA tests, which will set the levels for the life of the chassis  )
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scootz
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 08:40 AM |
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Forgot about that!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Neville Jones
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 09:12 AM |
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The Ford small blocks (260,289,302) are physically smaller engines than the Chev, or even the Rover. The 351 Ford is 1/2" taller on the block.
Above 351, they're monsters, same with Chev.
As with the Chevs, there's plenty of cheap tuning parts available, and then there's the carbon inlets if you want to spend the money.
Cheers,
Nev.
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Wadders
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 11:56 AM |
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Ah.... interesting, dunno why but i always thought it was post 92 cars that had tighter emissions regs..... you live and learn
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by Wadders
... why the cut off of 94 btw ?
Emissions regs.
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scootz
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 12:00 PM |
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It could be... I always get confused as it appears both the 92 and 94 dates are somehow important!
It's Evolution Baby!
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mcerd1
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 12:31 PM |
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^^ most cars were supposed to cats from the start Aug. 92 for production cars (but the actuall cut off dates can vary a bit, depending on the
approvals the car had, build dates etc... (e.g. my 106 had a carb and was regestered in Sept. 92)
its august 95 for the engine at SVA/IVA though
although I was just reading the MOT manual to check and it seems to suggest that fitting an older engine means you can ues the older emissions test
(as long as you can prove the engine age... linky
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swanny
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| posted on 11/8/11 at 01:27 PM |
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i see in that document its up to the presenter to prove age. i've never had to prove anything for mine. tester has generally just said,
"what years the engine mate?" to which i reply 79 and he does the probe test at tick over rather than whatever revs they are suppoosed to
do to a later engine.
out of curiosity we tested it at revs thisn year and it passed that too.
paul
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ettore bugatti
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| posted on 13/8/11 at 12:34 AM |
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Something from BMW?
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