Doc
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 08:56 PM |
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Pinto + type 9 engine + gearbox mounts
Friend of mine is building a locost with a pinto and type 9. Has anyone got any pictures of the engine and gearbox mounts in a standard chassis? The
engine and box looks a little too far forward to us.
Thanks.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:23 PM |
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Which bit in particular are you worried about? I have several shots, but don't want to bore everybody with too many images
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stressy
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:36 PM |
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If it dont look right.....
Hi Doc,
My advise with fitting a pinto is to pull it back as far as you possibly can. Its a fair bit of weight and it can contribute fairly heavily to
understeer.
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JoelP
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:42 PM |
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its possible i hold the record for pulling it back (short of having it in the boot), my gearstick is level with the side of the seat.
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Doc
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:45 PM |
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It looks to me like the gearbox mount is too far forward.
A picture of the gearbox mount position on the chassis and the clearance between the bellhousing and chassis would be great. Thanks.
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JohnN
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 09:59 PM |
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The further back the better for balance, the rear of my engine is 40mm from the firewall/end of the footwell, ie the bellhousing is 90% in the
tunnel. This is obviously only possible if making your own chassis ?
JohnN
 
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ray.h.
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 10:21 PM |
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check my pics, they show where we put the gearbox mount.We pulled the bell housing to within 10mm of the bulkhead and used a plate from luego to mount
the original gearbox rubber to but im sure you could make one quite easily.The only problem is that the gear lever is quite far away so a short person
might need a remote gear lever.
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Peteff
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| posted on 25/6/04 at 10:31 PM |
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I placed mine well back in the chassis and made my own mounts using the Sierra rubbers. I have some pictures in the archive. You can't place the
gearbox mount till you decide how far back you want your engine. I put it in place then built the tunnel round it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 06:27 PM |
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Photo is a bit cluttered, but I think you can make out the position
 
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 06:31 PM |
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and another
 
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macspeedy
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 06:49 PM |
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that is very similar (MA) to the mk pinto set up, we made an extension thingy available from westfield nr £80 well worth it!
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macspeedy
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 06:53 PM |
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also used this, due to type 9 normal being soft and it flapping about!
 
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macspeedy
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 06:53 PM |
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we made very sim to this
 
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 07:12 PM |
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I just filled the voids up with windscreen bond, its now nice and stiff!
 
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Peteff
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| posted on 26/6/04 at 11:18 PM |
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I used the middle out of the original and put a big washer on the underneath to make it a more solid mount.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Doc
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| posted on 27/6/04 at 09:30 PM |
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Thanks for the replies. After this evening the gearbox is as far backwards as possible still allowing reasonable clearance. The gearbox mount needed
moving 80mm!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 27/6/04 at 09:33 PM |
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The previous position would have been fine if you had a 3 cylinder Pinto
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 3/7/04 at 05:21 PM |
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I have just put my engine/box back in the car for good this time, this shot should show the position better
 
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/7/04 at 06:50 PM |
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I think mine's about 100mm further back than that. If you mount it too far forward your engine reaches the nosecone.
 
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yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 3/7/04 at 08:21 PM |
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Pete,
How have you done that?, my bellhousing is about 10mm off the uprights of the footwells, it is as far back as it will go in my chassis
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chrisg
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| posted on 4/7/04 at 11:17 AM |
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just a little word of warning, do all your measuring with the starter motor fitted, a number of people have fitted the engine and found a chassis tube
where the starter wants to be!
Cheers
Chris
[Edited on 4/7/04 by chrisg]
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Peteff
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| posted on 4/7/04 at 02:53 PM |
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I put the engine and gearbox where I wanted then built the tunnel round them. It robs your foot space but I only take a 7 . It means putting the
engine bay brace on the other side but it adds more space for the standard alternator to clear the steering.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 4/7/04 at 07:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
just a little word of warning, do all your measuring with the starter motor fitted, a number of people have fitted the engine and found a chassis tube
where the starter wants to be!
Cheers
Chris
I was that soldier!!
[Edited on 4/7/04 by chrisg]
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