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posted on 19/7/12 at 08:03 PM

Crumbs- I bet that goes nicely! Nice one

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posted on 19/7/12 at 08:29 PM

Standard 2.0 internals, wish I had fitted ARP conrod bolts as I could set the redline at 7500 as it stands I've put it at 7000.

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posted on 19/7/12 at 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by se7ensport

216bhp and 170lbft at the flywheel

[Edited on 19/7/12 by se7ensport]

thats a lot

in the end which spark map did you use as a base map?
now I feel the need to dyno mine
congratulations

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posted on 19/7/12 at 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by radom

quote:
Originally posted by se7ensport

216bhp and 170lbft at the flywheel

[Edited on 19/7/12 by se7ensport]

thats a lot
in the end which spark map did you use as a base map?
now I feel the need to dyno mine
congratulations

I used the DTA 199bhp map, but it wasn't that close:

I'm happy to share mine and the target lambda which helped get the smooth power curve:

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Note: 800 and 900 columns don't really get used, the car idles at 950rpm, anything under that with throttle load over 20% cause lots of pre-ignition so we upped the tick over in the end.

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posted on 20/7/12 at 02:21 PM

216bhp from a standard engine?

Most engine builders are having to do work to get lower figures than that? My standard engine came out at 140bhp at the wheels and giving 20% drive train loss that would be around 170bhp. Most people expect a normal engine to be around 185bhp, which I believe PJ's was.

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posted on 20/7/12 at 02:41 PM

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216bhp from a standard engine?

Most engine builders are having to do work to get lower figures than that? My standard engine came out at 140bhp at the wheels and giving 20% drive train loss that would be around 170bhp. Most people expect a normal engine to be around 185bhp, which I believe PJ's was.

Standard internals.

Inlet, exhaust, ITBs, ECU, airbox, injectors and their location are not standard.

The figures you quote are low, 190-200 is regularly seen without internal mods.

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posted on 20/7/12 at 03:21 PM

Fair enough, they're very good results, like I say most engine tuners aren't getting that without a set of cams.

[Edited on 20/7/12 by Tiger Super Six]

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posted on 20/7/12 at 05:16 PM

Got 192 on my Mondeo Duratec but it doesn't have the better flowing head.

Alex's is the later engine with, I assume, the better flowing head but I'm working on the basis the better head would only give another 10-15 BHP:

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Duratec/Cylinder%20Head.htm

All a bit side tracked at the mo though with getting ready for a Fury build...

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posted on 20/7/12 at 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by pjay
Got 192 on my Mondeo Duratec but it doesn't have the better flowing head.

Alex's is the later engine with, I assume, the better flowing head but I'm working on the basis the better head would only give another 10-15 BHP:

http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Duratec/Cylinder%20Head.htm

All a bit side tracked at the mo though with getting ready for a Fury build...

Fury build; AWESOME, a Duratec will also fit.

Mine is a 2009 Focus engine with circa 5000miles on it.

For comparison ZetecInside managed 199bhp on a Fiesta ST engine with no internal mods.

[Edited on 20/7/12 by se7ensport]

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posted on 20/7/12 at 05:53 PM

Cheers. Already got the engine sorted - Fiesta ST150 Duratec. It should be the first factory built Duratec chassis.

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posted on 21/7/12 at 09:54 AM

Its the ST150 that has the better flowing Head I understand

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posted on 21/7/12 at 10:13 AM

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Its the ST150 that has the better flowing Head I understand

The high flowing head comes on the Focus from 2008, the number on the head should be RF 3S4G.

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posted on 21/7/12 at 12:17 PM

Definitely both ST150 and later Focuses (Foci?) have them. I suppose it's prossible they appear on other later vehicles knowing Ford.

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