l0rd
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 07:50 PM |
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Originally posted by Liam
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
I could fit an ecotec, but this would require a new manifold for my carbs and a new exhaust as the ports are different. Definitely an option though as
my bellhousing etc would still be usable and I'd be able to get a V5.
Dont really know my vaux engines - is there any block/bottom end differences between C20XE redtop and the X20XE ecotec? If you were to get a cheap
ecotec Cav as available on Ebay, could you fit it in but then stick your C20XE head on so you dont need to change any manifolds? Then you have the
engine number on the block corresponding to your shiny new V5. Even if IVA jobsworth notices the C20 head on an X20, that should still be allowed as
engine is defined by it's block, but you might be able to avoid that if the black ecotec trim fits on the C20 cover (or the whole rocker cover
can be swapped).
Hows about that then?
EDIT: Some googling suggests your C20XE head would go on an X20XE block, but I suppose somewhere like migweb, vvoc, vxon might know better.
[Edited on 20/7/10 by Liam]
That is a good idea. I did think of it, i just didn't say anything as I didn't know if any work has been done to the engine to justify
taking it to pieces.
I believe the 20XE is exactly the same bolt on bolt off for the whole engine.
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l0rd
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 07:53 PM |
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Originally posted by cd.thomson
Good idea scootz, my exhaust doesn't lend itself to that option (4 pipes enter the can). Could be a good choice if I make a new exhaust
though.
I can't really run the exhaust under the car as I dont have the clearance, but nice thinking l0rd as my side panels are sikaflexed on and can
only be removed after all the other body panels are taken off (wings, dash, scuttle) so panel replacement is a fairly big deal.
I could fit an ecotec, but this would require a new manifold for my carbs and a new exhaust as the ports are different. Definitely an option though as
my bellhousing etc would still be usable and I'd be able to get a V5.
I didn't say anything about removing the panels or damaging it.
How far down does your sump go? The exhaust should be in the same axis. Just some sort of a U bend under the lower rails and also to flatten it a bit
to give you some more clearance.
also, you could lift the suspension to max to gain some more clearance
[Edited on 20/7/10 by l0rd]
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l0rd
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 08:06 PM |
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my thought
my thought
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 08:39 PM |
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no sorry mate, i meant your idea was better than the idea of cutting out the panel  .
ah I see what you mean now, run the original manifold out under the chassis rail and have the cat/back box in a similar position to my can now!
I was trying to figure out how id put a cat/back box underneath the car!
Craig
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l0rd
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 08:53 PM |
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Originally posted by cd.thomson
no sorry mate, i meant your idea was better than the idea of cutting out the panel .
ah I see what you mean now, run the original manifold out under the chassis rail and have the cat/back box in a similar position to my can now!
I was trying to figure out how id put a cat/back box underneath the car!
Exactly. My only worry will be the engine mount.  But heyyy life aint easy.
[Edited on 20/7/10 by l0rd]
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adithorp
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| posted on 20/7/10 at 09:12 PM |
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Just for info... you'd be lucky to get through a BETS test with the bike can/cat. Bikes emmision requirements are lower than cars and the cat
won't be big enough for the job.
adrian
ps. stick with it...it wil be worth it.
"A witty saying proves nothing" Voltaire
http://jpsc.org.uk/forum/
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 08:01 AM |
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Thanks for the info Adrian.
Craig
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l0rd
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 08:32 AM |
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Let us know of your decision so we can stop looking for engine age
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 08:36 AM |
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Haha, you can stop looking, I've done all sorts of digging over the last couple of days and I've got nothing.
Proving engine age isn't going to possible so it has to be engine transplant/new exhaust/new test circa £500.
Craig
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franky
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 09:21 AM |
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I know its expensive but would a new test at another centre not be the best solution as I know it will cost more but the cost of getting another motor
getting it all swapped about and the time involved would be quite large too. If you added up all the associated costs i'm sure a test at
another station would work out faster/cheaper in the long run.
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Liam
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 09:26 AM |
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Well there was one last hope - my vaux contact said you might try a letter in your best German to the records dept in Ruesselsheim and they may be
able to tie your engine no to its original chassis no. Probably a very slim chance though! Nah I reckon the engine swap (or just block as above) or
cobbled together exhaust are the best options.
A different test location is risky unless you have it confirmed beforehand that they will accept your engine age.
[Edited on 21/7/10 by Liam]
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l0rd
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 10:25 AM |
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just do the exhaust and nothing else as i suggested in the previous posts.
Manifold can be found for less than 20
Cat can be found for 40
silencer can be found for 40-70
pipe, bends etc can be found and done for less than 30
The cheapest solution.
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stevegough
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| posted on 21/7/10 at 09:55 PM |
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Craig - sorry to read the problems you are having with the final hurdle - just a thought - doesn't your engine have a date cast in the block
like mine? - Next question - is that not sufficient for the examiner?
If you are having this problem, then I might struggle, too because even though I have a photocopy of the V5 from the calibra, there is a typo error on
the engine number - the last 3 digits are reversed. A jobsworth is not going to be impressed methinks.
Pic of mine.... (below left - hand engine mount). - Sorry, can't upload photos on this thread for some reason? See in my archive pics under
'engine codes'.
Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 22/7/10 at 08:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
Craig - sorry to read the problems you are having with the final hurdle - just a thought - doesn't your engine have a date cast in the block
like mine? - Next question - is that not sufficient for the examiner?
If you are having this problem, then I might struggle, too because even though I have a photocopy of the V5 from the calibra, there is a typo error on
the engine number - the last 3 digits are reversed. A jobsworth is not going to be impressed methinks.
Pic of mine.... (below left - hand engine mount). - Sorry, can't upload photos on this thread for some reason? See in my archive pics under
'engine codes'.
Steve, 10s of C20XE engined cars have made their way onto the road using the documentation I have access too. You'll be fine as long as you
don't go to derby!
I'll check for a date stamp but I think thats only on the early models.
I know people probably wont be reading this thread now as it wont appear on the front page, but can anyone/does anyone know somebody who could fab me
up the worldest cheapest, crumbiest, cat-inclusive exhaust system if I give them the car?
Craig
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Rocket_Rabbit
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| posted on 22/7/10 at 10:12 PM |
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Originally posted by cd.thomson
DVLA require pictures of the engine
I once saw a photo of a push bike with a V8 engine on it.
I once saw a photo of a Shark trying to eat a helicopter.
Both were awesome, but I couldn't help thinking how something like that couldn't have happened???
Something completely unrelated, My Mrs is into Photography, apparently ADOBE PHOTOSHOP helps.
I'm sure it'll all be fine
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