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Northy

posted on 13/9/04 at 08:55 PM Reply With Quote
XR 4x4 diff ratio?

Hi guys,

What is the ratio for an XR 4x4 rear diff? I want to put it in the gear ratio spreadsheet to see how it affects my gearing.

I'm not too happy with my gearing at the moment. 1st is a waste of time, and I need to be in 3rd to hit 60, not good for a quick 0-60 time

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Viper

posted on 13/9/04 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
1.62-1 i think...
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Northy

posted on 13/9/04 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
That was quick! 1.62:1 are you sure?





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JoelP

posted on 13/9/04 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
3.62 i suspect he meant!






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mackie

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
I think he meant 3.62
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JoelP

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
beat you! and on further thought, it will be the 3.6 LSD diff. what diff do you have now graham? i would've though 3.6 should've been ok with a car engine.






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Northy

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:15 PM Reply With Quote
I've got a 3.62 at the mo, but I fancy an LSD

This is what I got with a Type 9 and a 3.62:1 diff, is this correct? Rescued attachment Gear ratios.jpg
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twinturbo

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:19 PM Reply With Quote
Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4 then it's 3.92

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Viper

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
must be all the alchahol






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ReMan

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twinturbo
Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4 then it's 3.92

TT


It better had`nt be!!
Mine was from a v6 it should be 3.62? , 0-60 in 2 secs would be good but I dont fancy 12000rpm at 70 mph

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JoelP

posted on 13/9/04 at 09:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twinturbo
Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4 then it's 3.92

TT


i wish i could argue with that, but you do seem to know a lot about sierras... but it doesnt make sense to me. the v6s rev lower than the 4 pot engines, but with a 3.92 diff ratio they will have a much slower top speed than a 2 litre with a 3.6 ratio. How does that work?






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NS Dev

posted on 13/9/04 at 10:38 PM Reply With Quote
I am now on my 3rd XR4x4 Sierra (2 2.8's and a 2.9 now) and they all have 3.62:1 diff ratios.

There was never a 3.92:1 ratio available on either the 7 inch or 7.5 inch diffs, and the XR4x4s were all fitted with 7 inch diffs.

The 7 inch was available from Ford only with the 3.62:1 ratio, in XR4x4 2.8, 2.9, Cosworth 4x4 and certain scorpios. The 2wd Sierra Cosworth and the Granada Cosworth were fitted with the 7.5 inch diff which was a 3.64:1 ratio.

(anoraks will inform that a 3.36:1 7.5 inch diff was available on the 2.3 Turbo Merkur XR4Ti but there arean't many of these in the UK!)

Also of note is that the biggest range of ratios was available for the competition oriented 9 inch diff, which had.....3.08:1, 3.25:1, 3.42:1, 3.64:1, 3.82:1, 4.09:1, 4.27:1, 4.44:1, 4.67:1, 4.89:1 and 5.11:1 available!!!!

Unfortunately I don't know what ratios were available for the 6.5 inch diff but no lsd was available for this anyway and it used the tripod output shafts not Lobro ones.

There, now it is confirmed that I am a sad Ford enthusiast, let us say no more about it!! Doh!!

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Northy

posted on 14/9/04 at 07:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
There, now it is confirmed that I am a sad Ford enthusiast, let us say no more about it!! Doh!!


You are a sad Ford enthusiast!

But thanks!





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twinturbo

posted on 14/9/04 at 07:12 AM Reply With Quote
3.62 gives a higher top speed than 3.92

I have had..

3 Standard 2.9's 4x4

1 Twin Turbo 2.9 4x4

2 Twincam 4x4's one of which was convertyed to 2.9 using the 3.92 diffs.

1 Twinturbo 4i

so I know a little about 4x4's too.

An two 1.8's as well..

The ratio for the twincam is to allow it to still be driveable, with the 3.62 the car would not perform well. On the flip side, my 2.9 when fitted with the 3.92 diffs was very quick off the line but topped out earlier.

TT

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NS Dev

posted on 14/9/04 at 06:00 PM Reply With Quote
Ahhhh, seems I may have grasped the wrong end of a pooey stick!

I read all the other posts but not your earlier one Twinturbo! I saw the talk about 3.92 diffs in the 2.9 4x4 which I know is wrong, but it would seem that your post was misread by some others, which confused me!

I have never seen a 3.92 7 inch diff, but then I have never owned a twincam 4x4 (nor would really want to I suppose!), and my Ford data sheet hadn't seen a 3.92 either, but it was printed before the twin cam 4x4 was produced!

Does this mean that in addition to the fairly rare twincam 4x4 sierras, some later granadas/scorpios might have these diffs? If so that sounds a lot better to go with my Vauxhall 16v in my locost, 3.62 lsd is okish but a bit too high really, 3.92 lsd would be much better............................anyone want to swap?????

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ReMan

posted on 14/9/04 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twinturbo
Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4 then it's 3.92

TT


I, have,now, re-read, the, thread, 6, more, times, and, have, just, twigged!

Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4 then it's 3.92
VS
Unless it's a 2.0 XR4x4, then it's 3.92

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JoelP

posted on 14/9/04 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
the joys of the english language...






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twinturbo

posted on 15/9/04 at 05:05 AM Reply With Quote
2.0 XR4x4's are not rare..

Admitidly only produced from 1990 onwards but there's plenty of them arround..

I doubt that the granada will have a 3.92 LSD. And the 2.0 XR4i stupidly has an open diff!!!

TT

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Northy

posted on 15/9/04 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
But is anyone else unhappy with the gearing of there car?

Whats the best (ie cheapest) way to improve it? I'd like to be able to hit 60 in 2nd ideally.

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twinturbo

posted on 15/9/04 at 09:50 PM Reply With Quote
there's a pair of 2.0 4x4 Diffs on the Bay at the mo..

I know the seller and he's a SOUND chap..

Buy the pair and sell the front one on...

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JoelP

posted on 16/9/04 at 07:15 AM Reply With Quote
any chance of a link rob?






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twinturbo

posted on 16/9/04 at 08:50 AM Reply With Quote
God!! do you expect all your slaves to do the hard work for you!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=21654&item=2489799774&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Guy is in peterlee in the north east..

He may be pursuaded to split them if you mail him..

Postage should be ok with www.postvan.com..

I sent one to France and it was not dreadfuly expensive..

TT

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Liam

posted on 16/9/04 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
Oh my god I neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed that front diff!!!! Joel - you wanna bid and sell me the front, or i'll bid and sell the rear (or keep it). Hmmmm. Whatever - lets make sure we don't have a bidding battle between us!

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twinturbo

posted on 16/9/04 at 09:17 PM Reply With Quote
Are you using a 3.92 rear then Liam..

I have a few 3.62 fronts lying arround ...

TT

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JoelP

posted on 16/9/04 at 10:11 PM Reply With Quote
cheers for the link TT, it was the plural diffs that stumped me when i searched! liam, you have u2u sausage.






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