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j30fos - 20/12/07 at 09:03 PM

Ive got a PWR chargecooler for my saab turbo build, but I need to find an intercooler and a rad to fit in the nose cone of my westfield. What Rad / intercooler is best? its going to be having about 300 BHP going through it.

oh and I need to get an oil cooler its gonna be tight in there


Mr Whippy - 20/12/07 at 09:03 PM

now that avatar is simply huge half my screen is a turbo

a rad, an oil cooler and an intercooler in the nose of a 7 this I must see, go for it Houdini

[Edited on 20/12/07 by Mr Whippy]


speedyxjs - 20/12/07 at 09:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
now that avatar is simply huge half my screen is a turbo


Ha ha
It only fills a quarter of mine


Mr Whippy - 20/12/07 at 09:07 PM

yeah well the flat screen went pop


j30fos - 20/12/07 at 09:15 PM

Hows that

Here you go, a quick taster of what hassles im going to have to over come, another Saab turbo westy


Description
Description


Mr Whippy - 20/12/07 at 09:18 PM

that looks very good indeed, very impressed


j30fos - 20/12/07 at 09:23 PM

do you mean the small avi lol

It can be done just need to find out what to use


indykid - 20/12/07 at 09:34 PM

i'd want a far more substantial roll bar with that engine in the front!

back on task, why do you need an intercooler if you're having a chargecooler?
could you run the pipework for the chargecooler up the tunnel and stick the rad in the back above the diff or to the side?

tom


j30fos - 20/12/07 at 10:32 PM

true, i meant another rad to cool the water for the chargecooler. Not much space around the back, it has the 7.5 cossie diff in there.


bimbleuk - 21/12/07 at 08:49 AM

I've managed to package an oil cooler, Accusump, Radiator + Fan and an intercooler in my nose so its always possible. I'm producing 270BHP and no issue with cooling on road or track.


Intercooler mounted
Intercooler mounted


NS Dev - 21/12/07 at 09:27 AM

and is it Simon on here who has the Rover V8 with a pair of turbos plus intercooler and rad all in a 7..................

PS IIRC BimbleUK used a nissan micra rad, that's what it looks like anyway.

Failing that, there's the v8 rad from westfield, and if you can afford to waste £45, a 1.0 polo rad's worth a try, certainly cools 250hp fine.

My car has one, only 200hp but the fan has only come on once even in heavy traffic at the hottest part of the year at rush hour.


2b_pablo - 21/12/07 at 09:39 AM

can you not just use a std intercooler instead of a chargecooler?


Mr Whippy - 21/12/07 at 10:02 AM

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Rescued attachment Intercooler_mounted_front.jpg


NS Dev - 21/12/07 at 10:26 AM

no its an accusump.

It contains a spring loaded piston and a load of engine oil normally. The engine oil pump pressure pushes the piston back down the cylinder, then when you get some oil surge when cornering the spring pressure pushes the oil back to maintain oil supply to the engine.

basically a cheap dry sump that avoids the packaging issues that dry sumping on any reasonable budget throws up.

It also has the advantage that when you get home, you get out with the car running and shut that 1/4 turn valve, trapping the oil in it. In the morning when you are about to restart the car, you open the valve and the engine is instantly primed with oil.


Mr Whippy - 21/12/07 at 10:32 AM

I like the sound of that, no more rattles in the morning

I think I'd fit an electric valve though, it would save having to open the bonnet all the time.

'Oil Boost' - button I think I'll have look at them, ta


[Edited on 21/12/07 by Mr Whippy]


NS Dev - 21/12/07 at 10:36 AM

you can get them with an electric valve


matt_claydon - 21/12/07 at 12:22 PM

What's the intercooler in the pics above off? Or is it custom made?


procomp - 21/12/07 at 02:33 PM

Hi to save some problems with air flow why not use a water cooled oil cooler. Available in different lenght to suit requirements. Just requires cold return water flow from rad through it and oil connection. No need to worry about positioning in the air flow. Which will help the rad with more flow available.
The small version of our oil/water heat exchanger. Suitable for 200bhp. Larger sizes for larger bhp applications. Available with either straight or 90 deg ends. 1/2
The small version of our oil/water heat exchanger. Suitable for 200bhp. Larger sizes for larger bhp applications. Available with either straight or 90 deg ends. 1/2" BSP oil fittings.
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Cheers Matt


j30fos - 21/12/07 at 02:56 PM

never seen one of these before, where do you get them from?


bimbleuk - 22/12/07 at 05:42 AM

As procomp says using an oil/water cooler can save a lot of hassle with long oil lines and siting a radiator.

On mine I'm using a Ford oil/water cooler block fed from the heater water circuit. So actually the oil cooler in my picture above is for my Rotrex supercharger as it also has a separate traction oil circuit.

Ford oil water cooler mounted
Ford oil water cooler mounted


bimbleuk - 22/12/07 at 06:01 AM

In my case removing the oil/air cooler allowed me to relocate the alternator to this side of the engine. On the other side the Rotrex supercharger is sat where the alternater was.

Ford oil water cooler 2
Ford oil water cooler 2


[Edited on 22/12/07 by bimbleuk]

[Edited on 22/12/07 by bimbleuk]