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ford 1800 cvh need help
bootneck - 2/9/06 at 10:40 AM

hi new to all this. i have a 1800 ford cvh engine in my mk locost. its reasonable but i would like to know if i can get more out of the engine or am i wasting my time. not many people seem to want to touch them. also how hard is it to put another engine in if mine is no good. i was thinking a rover VVC OR K series from ebay i know this has probably been disgust before but like i said im new to this so please excuse me. any help would be most gratful.


cct7kitcars - 2/9/06 at 10:45 AM

if you have the room in your engine bay you can put nearly any engine in you want

joe

cct7kitcars


bootneck - 2/9/06 at 10:49 AM

theengine bay is big the car is up and running i just feel i might have got the wrong engine. if i do put a new engine in do i have to change the gear box or can they be linked


cct7kitcars - 2/9/06 at 10:51 AM

what gearbox you got fitted


whitestu - 2/9/06 at 11:25 AM

A Zetec would be fairly easy.


bootneck - 2/9/06 at 11:33 AM

from a 1988 serria. 5 speed box


bootneck - 2/9/06 at 11:36 AM

whitestu is your 1800 standard or have you played with it. do you know what bhp yours is running at


andyharding - 2/9/06 at 11:47 AM

I gas flowed a 1800CVH head and increased the CR to 10.5:1 for a mates Sierra.

He was well chuffed with the result - it went faster and was more economic when not standing on the loud pedal.

I *think* it would be possible to fit a cam from something with a sporty 1600CVH to get even more poke.

Coupled with bike carbs there would be a huge difference in power.


cct7kitcars - 2/9/06 at 11:48 AM

it all depends on how much money you want to spend


mookaloid - 2/9/06 at 12:05 PM

Turbo?


whitestu - 2/9/06 at 01:31 PM

quote:

whitestu is your 1800 standard or have you played with it. do you know what bhp yours is running at



Mine is totally standard - I haven't done my SVA yet to I don't know how quick it will be.


I had an email discussion with a guy from Ferriday engineering [they do a lot with CVHs] who reckoned bike carbs and a slightly raised CR would give around 120 BHP.

He also said that he didn't think it was worth spending much on the CVH head as it would never be great.

I had originally planned to do stuff with the CVH, but my plan now is to fit a 1.8 Zetec with bike carbs at a later stage as the engine is more powerful, smoother, stronger and a bit nicer to look at.

The Zetec will be a fairly easy swap for the CVH, the only complicated thing being the ignition, for which I'll use a Megajolt.

Stu

ps the guy from Ferriday said a turbo installation on the CVH would be easy - the 1.6 head on the 1.8 block gives a suitable CR for a turbo so this could be a cheap way to lots of power.

Personally I prefer normally aspirated engines so didn't fancy this route for myself.

[Edited on 2/9/06 by whitestu]


Surrey Dave - 2/9/06 at 01:55 PM

Mine has gas flowed head , 1mm skimmed off , Megajolt ignition + bike carbs ( as i told AndyHarding) .

Goes quite well ,and did not embarrass itself at a Brands Hatch trackday with Elises ,Vx220's etc

You can,t use any other UK cvh cams ,the journals are a different size.

You can replace the pistons and then use all the 1600cvh tuning option together with the head.

You may be able to get a cam from the USA that will fit as the 1800cvh is based on the American cvh.

Mike Tanski at Ferriday Engineering does lots of stuff for CVH.

As the head is quite badly flowing Turbo could be an option but you would have to drop the compression.

Surrey Dave self appointed 1800cvh pioneer!!!!

[Edited on 2/9/06 by Surrey Dave] Rescued attachment Carbs On Car 6 vvsml.jpg
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bootneck - 2/9/06 at 02:37 PM

thanks for all this it sounds more promising. if i get all the parts from brakers and ebay are their garages out their that would put in in and set it up. i dont want to spend mega bucks fut a little project over the winter is ok. the other idea was to put a rover 1.8 turbo k series in.


bootneck - 2/9/06 at 02:49 PM

looks like you have twins on their what manifold have you used and can i just get any carbs to put on their


Surrey Dave - 2/9/06 at 03:31 PM

My carbs are Suzuki gsxr750wn 38mm, I made the manifold from mild steel. Rescued attachment Finished Manifold 4vvsml.jpg
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bootneck - 2/9/06 at 04:18 PM

looks impresive thanks for that. could you be perswaded to make another for a standard 1800? cheaky i know!


Surrey Dave - 2/9/06 at 05:14 PM

Sorry no, it took quite a bit of faffing about , and a bit of help from Mr Fozzie ( aka DLT)


coozer - 2/9/06 at 09:57 PM

Hi Bootneck, welcome.

To answer your question to replace your cvh engine there are some easy options.

Taking it easy for you a 2.0 Pinto would be a straight forward swap but for some real hikes go for a Zetec. The 1.8 is easiest and can be made to give the same power as a 2.0 with cams etc.

Getting in a bit further would see some bike carbs, Bogg Brothers can sort you out for a manifold, running a megajolt ignition system.

As Surrey dave above I made my own manifold from steel with a drill and jig saw.

You can find all the answers to your questions here. The guys have a wealth of advise, experience and knowledge.


bootneck - 3/9/06 at 04:00 PM

thanks for all your help guys will let you know how its turned out.