MK do them to order. Although we manufactured it up - MK welded it up, many thanks! MK ENGINEERING
Anyone know where I can get a cheap fuel swirl / collector pot. Burton's 90quid is a little extreme for my taste
Cheers
S
Do you mean like this one:
MK do them to order. Although we manufactured it up - MK welded it up, many thanks! MK ENGINEERING
Steve,
Could you post a link/picture of the one that Burton's do? I'm on the lookout for a swirl pot for the fuel too, and I'm looking to get
one specially made...
Cheers
Andy
Just been on the Burton Site - what a pile of sh!te the links are - they are in layers and you cant see a bloody think using Firefox... trying with
Enternet Ixplorer now... 
Seems alright in IE... typical!!!
quote:
Originally posted by bigandy
Steve,
Could you post a link/picture of the one that Burton's do? I'm on the lookout for a swirl pot for the fuel too, and I'm looking to get one specially made...
Cheers
Andy
Isn't thank an in-tank one? I'm really looking for an external one which I can fit in the engine bay, using the original facet as a lift
pump.
Getting so close now, the fuel system is all that's left preventing me driving the beast again.
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Do you mean like this one:
MK do them to order. Although we manufactured it up - MK welded it up, many thanks! MK ENGINEERING
Yikes...both SBD and Forge Motorsport want over a ton for theirs...!
Steve
From concept racing brochure
1.5 litre petrol swirl tank, rear or base mounted 100*200mm £60
01432 850685
I know how you feel still just waiting for fuel pump. Will be buying new if it doesn't arrive by wednesday!
Ben.
Ben,
You star! However, if it's +VAT then it's the same price as Burton Power's
What type of pump are you after? I've a vectra in-tank jobbie I doubt I'll be using.
Stephen
[Edited on 28/3/05 by stevebubs]
Steve.
Thanks for the offer but I have already bought one. It just seems to be taking for ever to arrive with the bank holidays. Rolling road only a week
away so really want to do first start this week. I have a base map and have got some one coming over to do the key punching. Don't want to pay
£60 per hour just for them to start it.
Don't know about VAT it doesn't say. I'd give him a call. I'm sure he would do any size you wanted but don't know about cost
for one off's
Ben.
Ben,
Great Pointer - looks like a goer. £60 all in. 4 connections - 2 to rail, 2 to tank.
Cheers
Stephen
PS His new number is 01432 850889
quote:
Originally posted by Ben Smith
Steve
From concept racing brochure
1.5 litre petrol swirl tank, rear or base mounted 100*200mm £60
01432 850685
I know how you feel still just waiting for fuel pump. Will be buying new if it doesn't arrive by wednesday!
Ben.
I have made them up for about 50p quite a few times now, just not as pretty as ally ones!
I just cut the crimped on end off a truck or tractor disposable oil filter, giving a nice thin one-ended cylinder, then clean it thoroughly and weld
it to a baseplate, then drill it with the appropriate holes in the right places and weld (or braze) on outlets of the right diameters.
Lick of paint and it looks smart and really is "locost"!!!
Other alternative that I have used in the absence of big oil filters is 4" diameter exhaust tubing with ends welded on each end.
The Burton swirl pot looks interesting, I think it is a "pre-disposable" oil filter housing, i.e. one with the element inside a steel
housing. Take out the element and fit port reducers and hey presto, swirl pot.
Think I may use that one (need 4 outlets so will put a tee in one of the three existing ones) just need to get one from an old land rover, cheap as
chips!!
Steve.
Pleased to help. I did go down there this morning but he wasn't there. His work is top notch. You won't be dissapointed
Will you be at stonleigh? Would be good to compare conversions. Not sure which day I'll be there. I'll be meeting up with Edd B and the
Lemans 2005 group.
Ben.
quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
quote:
Originally posted by bigandy
Steve,
Could you post a link/picture of the one that Burton's do? I'm on the lookout for a swirl pot for the fuel too, and I'm looking to get one specially made...
Cheers
Andy
Definitely aiming to be at Stoneleigh on the Sunday. If I am, the car will be parked up at the back with the other Sylvas - probably the same place
you'll find Edd B, Andy W and the others. If the car is on the road, I doubt I'll have had the bonnet repaired so just look for the car with
the *huge** hole in the bonnet and a zetec sticking out.
quote:
Originally posted by Ben Smith
Steve.
Pleased to help. I did go down there this morning but he wasn't there. His work is top notch. You won't be dissapointed
Will you be at stonleigh? Would be good to compare conversions. Not sure which day I'll be there. I'll be meeting up with Edd B and the Lemans 2005 group.
Ben.
NS Dev,
I thought i'd seen these things once before - must have been on my mates tractor!
Any idea whether it is worth trying to source these as water seperators to save money, googling is not coming up with much. just found this on ebay
though..
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=15263&item=4539133010&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW&tc=photo
seems to be a lot of marine stuff using them aswell..
Ned.
ps recon these would be any good?
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/water_separators.htm
just noticed they also sell the same swirlpot as burtons 
http://www.fuelsystem.co.uk/filters.htm
[Edited on 30/3/05 by ned]
I'd try a truck breakers as a first port of call, doubt they sell many of them so they wouldn't want much for one.
It would be very easy to make a collector swirl pot out of a disposable cO2 bottle.
Don't know if it's big enough but a bit of union sorting and this might do, price is right!!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43122&item=4537225026&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Hi all,
if someone could do a reasonable drawing(with dimesions+sizes for the hose tails)I will probably be able to get them made at work, would bee in
stainless though.
would be a lot cheaper than £60 i would guess.
Ray
Well if someone can provide me with some basic dimensions, I'm sure I can produce a 3D model/set of drawings. I was going to do it anyway, but
if more poeple want one of a similar size, I'm more than happy to do the CAD work.
How about a Diameter and Length for starters, and also number of connections, roughly where they need to be, and preferred fitting (size and type)?
Cheers
Andy
Will try and knock something together for you
Stephen
[Edited on 30/3/05 by stevebubs]
just seen this on another site,
would this type of thing do??
150-180mm tall by 80mm diameter? (as measured off an evian bottle on my desk 
)
in from tank near top, return/overflow to tank at top, out to injection pump at bottom and return from pressure regulator near top.
For a nice stainless/ally item i would be happy to pay around £40, it is such a simple item i don't want to pay burton prices..
am i being reasonable/sensible here?
Ned.
will try and knock a "prototype" up this week, will post some pics and see what you all think.
Ray
being really fussy, i'd prefer the bracket something like this, though drawing not to scale, sure you know what i'm getting at. so i can
secure it to one of the 1x1" chassis rails..
here's how sbd recon the connections should go:
http://www.sbdev.co.uk/Info_sheets/Fuel_injection%20_Set_up_instructions/1.6-1.4%20Taper%20Instructions%20Print%20ALL/16_14_swirl_pot.htm
sorry for those who have seen this before..
Ned.
[Edited on 30/3/05 by ned]
Rescued attachment swirl.jpg
quote:
Originally posted by rayward
Does anyone know what sort of hose fittings are available for this sort of thing? Perhaps welded in ones? Or maybe welded in threaded bosses, that
unions can screw into? This would allow the user to shoose the unions best for his (or her!) application.
As for mounting the swirl pot, then I quite like the idea of having a couple of threaded bosses so that a mounting plate/clamp can be bolted on to
suit the end user. This would allow one tank to be fabricated for most users, and the end users makes up the bracket to attach it to the car?
I'm having no luck finding any specs for threaded fuel unions now. I need to know the preferred size and thread.
Cheers
Andy
4 x 1/4NPT / BSP threads should do the job; 3 at the top, 1 at the bottom
You can their purchase fittings of choice...
http://www.thinkauto.com/acatalog/Price_List_Push_on_hose___fittings
_27.html
[Edited on 30/3/05 by stevebubs]
jic are the threaded type fittings i gather or use an 8/10/12mm flared outlet/pipe
depends on the hoses you want to use really i suppose..
Is there any reason that a similar type pot could be made but tall enough to house the high pressure pump and gravity feed from the main tank to the swirl pot ?
quote:
Originally posted by Dale
Is there any reason that a similar type pot could be made but tall enough to house the high pressure pump and gravity feed from the main tank to the swirl pot ?
quote:
Originally posted by Ben Smith
Steve.
Pleased to help. I did go down there this morning but he wasn't there. His work is top notch. You won't be dissapointed
Ben.
Looks great!
rayward,
did you ever get a prototype made up in the end? anyone else made any progress/found more alternatives?
Ned.
I am not sure I understand the pros / cons, but whats wrong with a Diesel Fuel Filter, this the filter guts knocked out?,
They usually have 4 decent fuel proof connections on them, and hold a pint ot two. Could you not adapt one of those, Peugeots even have water heated
filter housings.
Lorry ones would be even bigger..
Just a thought
Just seen this post.
I have used a VW Golf GTi Mk1 swirl pot and fuel pump on my 1.8 Zetec and it works fine cost about £30 for the swirl pot and about £70 for the
pump.
Keith