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Limited slip diffs - Helical
russbost - 6/12/16 at 03:15 PM

I can buy helical LSD's quite cheaply (comparatively speaking & providing I buy several at a time) but they are only available as standard for the English & Atlas axles, which I assume are only live axles, not independent.

That in itself wouldn't bother me as I want them to use in a chain drive diff, so would make my own bearing carriers etc., but the English is a 22 spline & the Atlas a 16 spline, are these spline setups the same as any later Ford independent axle diffs, in other words, are there any Ford driveshafts with c/v's or pot joints that could be used with those diffs or is all the later stuff completely DIFFerent (see what I did there?

obfripper - 6/12/16 at 04:48 PM

The early sei westifelds used a english diff/cwp in an alloy housing, i don't know what drive shafts they are paired with.

Dave

minitici - 6/12/16 at 04:56 PM

The Westfields used their own cases and special output shafts in their early independent rear ends.

bart - 6/12/16 at 11:59 PM

Why not by ib5 type. Takes all fiesta escorts drive shafts ect

russbost - 7/12/16 at 08:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bart
Why not by ib5 type. Takes all fiesta escorts drive shafts ect


Simple matter of cost, for instance if I can get a few orders for these, then I could do the English diff for £349.95, & the Atlas unit for £384.95, in both cases that's about £40 less than Rally Design have these at, they are the Professional Traction Blackline units, I believe the Quaiffe IB5 is over £600, so that's quite a difference!

But for the diffs to be any use to me I need to have an inboard joint that would be a fit for the spline

minibull - 7/12/16 at 03:06 PM

Lotus Elan used english diff in lotus housing. So splined output shafts are available. Shame they will cost a lot more than any discount on your diff, don't know of any others.
Mick

Ugg10 - 7/12/16 at 03:43 PM

Found this - may be the same as the ones you are looking at but for a landrover, think they had splined drive shafts as well - http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/limited-slip-differentials/ashcroft-atb.html

You might also find some inspiration on here as well - http://chaindrivediff.co.uk/about/home/shop/


[Edited on 7/12/16 by Ugg10]

russbost - 8/12/16 at 11:43 AM

Don't actually need any inspiration, we already have our own chain drive diff using the Toyota donor diff, but I was looking for a cheap way of doing a LSD & a supplier coincidentally offered me these diffs.

Just need a way of using one of those diffs with ordinary driveshafts rather than solid halfshafts :s

If anyone is interested in the diffs for English or Atlas setups I could see if we can get a group buy together, if anyone's interested then u2u or email me at russbost at googlemail dot com


English LSD

[img] English LSD
English LSD [/img]

Atlas LSD

Atlas lsd
Atlas lsd

To be able to do the prices I have listed above I need to get at least 5 orders for whichever diff (if I can get half a dozen combined that would also do it)

snapper - 8/12/16 at 06:57 PM

The cheapest option is to strip out a Sierra LSD as all the LSD bits are in the housing the crown wheel bolts too.
Yes I know it's a viscous diff but it's the cheapest option and will take Sierra shafts

russbost - 8/12/16 at 07:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by snapper
The cheapest option is to strip out a Sierra LSD as all the LSD bits are in the housing the crown wheel bolts too.
Yes I know it's a viscous diff but it's the cheapest option and will take Sierra shafts


I would have thought decent second hand Sierra LSD's would be a bit like hen's teeth by now!

Ugg10 - 14/12/16 at 09:48 PM

Look what just popped up on eBay

Ford English LSD 22-Spline Differential Helical Traction System, Blackline Gears