Mansfield
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 12:05 PM |
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Domestic disaster - now I have to paint the ceiling
What a bummer, I was taking a nearly finished cup of tea into the kitchen so nobody kicked it over and made a mess, and I dropped it.
 
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You wouldn't believe the mess, there was only about 15mm left in it. I now have to paint the walls and the ceiling. It went everywhere
including me, the cup didnt break though. This happened 2 weeks ago, so it is all dry now and ready to paint.
 
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I know nothing about decorating so I have some questions.
I guess I roll on some paint just over the spots before a final coat?
Do you put more than one coat on on a normal ceiling job?
Can anyone recommend a decent paint?
It is a 5 year old house, so it is built to modern standards - in other words the finish is a bit poor in places. Do I sand the lumps or does nobody
bother will this? I have tried to take a picture but it doesnt show it well.
 
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The worst bit is SWMBO is looking around finding the finish faults that Wimpey kindly sold us and she is thinking maybe the whole house needs a going
over. This is not good news.
Thanks
David
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iceman26
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 12:17 PM |
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i did the same thing last week but have got to re do that room so it can wait
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Hammerhead
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 12:33 PM |
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I kind of like it, a very urban look.
My decorator uses something called bim primer to cover stains etc, but maybe you will get away with standard emulsion.
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blakep82
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 01:21 PM |
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you'd have been better off with it kicked over the carpet... 
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Mansfield
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 01:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
you'd have been better off with it kicked over the carpet...
You are so right, the carpet is a milky tea colour.
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smart51
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 02:15 PM |
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I painted the ceiling with white paint. I missed a bit. You couldn't tell at the time. Now, when the sun is out and you look at it from a
certain angle, you can see the sheen is different.
B&Q sell a paint that goes on pink and dries white. It might make life easier.
I'd cover each stain, let dry, see if the stain is covered, then paint the whole lot afterwards.
You could even cover it with "anti damp" paint which stops water marks coming through. we had to do this after a slight bathroom leak.
Even though it had dried thoroughly, the mark still came through the emulsion after a short while.
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Humbug
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 02:58 PM |
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To avoid the possibility of having to do the lot again, get a can of spray-on stain covering paint - not sure of the brand or the proper name, but
it's an aerosol. It covers up rusty type stains so they don't show ehn you put the top coat on
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Hellfire
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 03:28 PM |
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If you'd wiped the tea off the walls and ceiling with a damp cloth when you first did it, you'd have saved yourself some time and
money.
Phil
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Macbeast
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 04:18 PM |
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It might be good to give the stains a good wipe with a damp cloth before starting to paint. Water stains are a sod and always seem to show through.
There is a special high-density paint for covering up stains eg Polycell Stain Stop
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Aico
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 04:28 PM |
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Maybe you can try and sand it off?
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JoelP
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 06:02 PM |
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just to agree, you need a layer of stain blocker first.
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JohnN
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 08:03 PM |
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You let it dry for 2 weeks, so you could paint over it? It would have wiped off with a damp cloth straight afterward 
[Edited on 31/5/08 by JohnN]
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Mansfield
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 08:42 PM |
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Unfortunately I started the job before the majority of the answers came through, so I think I am probably going the wrong way now.
I am painting over each stain with a tester pot of the Dulux paint I am going to use. 3 coats later and the marks still stick out like a sore
thumb.
In no particular order.
Sanding reduced the stain, and would certainly needs less coats to cover it, but the current finish has a bit of a texture to it and I will be left
with a load of flat spots. I dont know how the finish was done so I cant replicate it, it is only paint though.
I tried to wipe it off asap but it absorbed so quickly, I didnt try a wet sponge though - that would have helped I guess.
As I have started painting I cant put a stain blocker on first, I do have a plan to stop it happening again though. I have told SWMBO to finish her
f***ing tea so I dont have to keep cleaning up after I kick it over.
Water stains are indeed a sod, and tea stains are worse.
Thanks for all the help, I will have another go tomorrow, and see what bits of your advice I can fit into my current plan.
David
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Macbeast
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 09:21 PM |
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I don't think it matters that you have started with ordinary emulsion. You can put stain stop over it.
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Liam
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| posted on 31/5/08 at 09:22 PM |
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I'm still trying to comprehend the teacup-dropping explosion that could plaster a room's ceiling and walls with tea!! I can't
specifically remember any tea-dropping incidents but i'm sure i've done it and surely you normally just have a puddle on the floor and
some broken porcelain to clean up?
Or do you drink tea from fragile pressurised vessels? Lol
liam
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Mansfield
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| posted on 1/6/08 at 11:28 AM |
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The only fragile pressurised vessel round here is my skull.
I too am trying to comprehend how so much mess could come from such an incident. Honestly it was everywhere apart from where I was masking it. It is
only a small kitchen (8'x10'ish) and every unit and appliance had drops all over it.
The cup didnt break even though I dropped it from just above work top height onto a hard laminate floor, maybe if it had things would have been
better.
[Edited on 1/6/08 by Mansfield]
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 1/6/08 at 12:50 PM |
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Gloss paint over water marks (prior to emulsion) works well IME.
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martyn_16v
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| posted on 1/6/08 at 01:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Liam
I'm still trying to comprehend the teacup-dropping explosion that could plaster a room's ceiling and walls with tea!!
I don't know the exact mechanics of it but i've done it myself before, and been similarly amazed. On a slightly-related note I seem to
have developed a knack recently for holding a cup under the tap in just the right position that when the tap is turned on even gently the water gets
launched straight back out of the cup and about 4 feet into the air, or more usually straight into my face 
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Mansfield
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| posted on 1/6/08 at 04:25 PM |
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The bathroom taps at work have such high pressure that combined with the curvaceous sink, deposit water that makes it look like you have wet
yourself.
I gave up washing my hands, I like to think my willy is pretty clean so I am not that bothered.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 1/6/08 at 05:42 PM |
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I think before reaching for the emulsion I would try dabbing the stains with household bleach -- bleach works for stains on tea cups.
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