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andrew-theasby

posted on 30/6/10 at 11:40 PM Reply With Quote
Hole in the market??

Just been shopping for a paddling pool online, and i was thinking why dont they make them with a black base to warm the water? Cant find one anywhere, so would it not work with it being under water? or would it just not raise the temp by any noticeable amount. I know when you switch the hose pipe on the first bit of water is nice and warm, there must be some way to take the chill off!
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RK

posted on 1/7/10 at 12:12 AM Reply With Quote
because the kids will think they're swimming in the Gulf of Mexico.
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speedyxjs

posted on 1/7/10 at 05:58 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RK
because the kids will think they're swimming in the Gulf of Mexico.


lol





How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?

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02GF74

posted on 1/7/10 at 06:42 AM Reply With Quote
A black pool looks unpleasant to everyone except Stevie Wonder, but more importantly water is a very good absorber of IR. For a black base to heat the water, the depth would need to be in the order of mm.

The reason why your hose pipe heats the water is because the water is on the inside.






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r1_pete

posted on 1/7/10 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
So whats needed is a slow pump, in a long length of matt black hosepipe, which sucks the water from the pool, as it travels round the pipe it warms up and is then drops back in the pool.

Patent Pending......






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balidey

posted on 1/7/10 at 07:20 AM Reply With Quote
You can buy solar heated camping showers, basically a black rubber bladder you fill with water. Its amazing how quick you get warm water.

But, I think you are missing the obvious point. Kids want COLD water on a hot day, not warm water.





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loggyboy

posted on 1/7/10 at 07:20 AM Reply With Quote
Also, who wants a warm paddling pool?
When its sunny you want a nice cool pool.
You might want a warm pool when its colder out, but when its cold out there is no sun to heat it!

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smart51

posted on 1/7/10 at 08:10 AM Reply With Quote
You want a fairly warm pool, even on a hot day. Heart attack inducing cold shock is only fun for those watching. Dark matt surfaces absorb sun light and get warm but I'm not sure you'd notice in a paddling pool.

Camping showers work but only on a very sunny day. You can get solar collectors that heat swimming pools but they're too much of a fixed feature for a paddling pool. Nice idea though.






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nick205

posted on 1/7/10 at 08:24 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
So whats needed is a slow pump, in a long length of matt black hosepipe, which sucks the water from the pool, as it travels round the pipe it warms up and is then drops back in the pool.

Patent Pending......



Why not make the sides of the paddling pool out of the matt black hose in a massive coil?

Small pump circulating the water from top to bottom in and out of the pool - job done.

On the other hand if most peoples kids are anything like mine, the water stays in the pool for so little time it's not worth warming it

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balidey

posted on 1/7/10 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
Boil the kettle and add a mug full





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02GF74

posted on 1/7/10 at 08:34 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
Also, who wants a warm paddling pool?


Perfect for tipping a pot noodle into the pool and eating it, yum!!






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Jon Ison

posted on 1/7/10 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
Storing beer in a warm pool ? whatever next.






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hughpinder

posted on 1/7/10 at 09:04 AM Reply With Quote
The water warms up nicely if you can stop evaporation - Put a layer of clear bubblewrap floating on the pool. (see swimming pool 'solar covers'
Regards
Hugh

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Miks15

posted on 1/7/10 at 11:22 AM Reply With Quote
we made a solar pool heater.
Basically used a few meters of black water feature hose, wrap it round in a coil and mounted it to a base, angled the base in to the sunlight. Then using the pump from the pool filter and an adjustable splitter so we can adjust water flow rate.
We ended up with a very good heater. But as said you need constant sun.

obviously the fast it went, the less the temperature rise was, and a nice slow trickle gave about 40-50 degree water coming out. So once a good balance was found it worked nicely

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omega 24 v6

posted on 1/7/10 at 11:33 AM Reply With Quote
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The reason why your hose pipe heats the water is because the water is on the inside



For a laugh and because I feel like being an ar*e does this mean IYHO that the water in a paddling pool is on the outside??





If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.

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andrew-theasby

posted on 1/7/10 at 01:58 PM Reply With Quote
Some funny replies there, got me thinking about the coil of tubing though or even a car radiator painted black...
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02GF74

posted on 1/7/10 at 02:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
quote:

The reason why your hose pipe heats the water is because the water is on the inside



For a laugh and because I feel like being an ar*e does this mean IYHO that the water in a paddling pool is on the outside??


actually you are correct; my bad.

the pipe has the pipe bit between the source of IR (the sun) and the water whereas there is nothing in between the water and the IR source in the paddly pool






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martyn_16v

posted on 1/7/10 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
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