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Hellfire

posted on 12/9/05 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
Does anyone seriously take what EVO, REVS, MAXPOWER et al say? The 20" wheel, triple engined Vauxhall Norsa (702bhp @25,000 rpm) with 6 x 4" Chav Bling Exhaust' Mr. Wassap. Com pimp me ryde minga s'appnin' dude? Nuff sed...

I mean... come on, at least quote a real critique publication.






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john_p_b

posted on 12/9/05 at 06:07 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Does anyone seriously take what EVO, REVS, MAXPOWER et al say? The 20" wheel, triple engined Vauxhall Norsa (702bhp @25,000 rpm) with 6 x 4" Chav Bling Exhaust' Mr. Wassap. Com pimp me ryde minga s'appnin' dude? Nuff sed...

I mean... come on, at least quote a real critique publication.


possibly the funniest thing i've read all year!!! lol! you're totally right though.

oh and for me if i had to go for one........i'd walk. the elise is a hair dressers car, never driven one but drove a VX220 a few times and they are basicly the same under the skin and that did nothing to impress me. the NSX, love the looks, the sound, the whole romance surrounding it's history. could never afford to service the thing though!!!





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britishtrident

posted on 12/9/05 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
NSX is triumph of technology
Elise is a triumph of pure design

Chalk and Cheese a bit like comparing a Tornado with a Spitfire

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the_fbi

posted on 12/9/05 at 10:41 PM Reply With Quote
If it were my money and it had to be an NA car, it would be an M3 and a load newer than the NSX.
Whilst a "bland" car, throttle response and grin factor would be up with both.

Compare an NSX to a Esprit S4 (similar price and age) and its a tougher choice.
Jap'mobile verses English class with a dollop of reliability issues. Either would be great every day cars and both would look OK parked outside a Kensington apartment. For quick point-to-point twisty stuff the NSX would win but as you got out of the Esprit in your tux, you'd feel better than the guy in his Levis in the NSX.

Mainstream Jap or British built fun (applies to both Lotus's), its quite a difference.

Bit like the scooby/evo verses Escort Cossie debate.......

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locogeoff

posted on 12/9/05 at 11:07 PM Reply With Quote
Think it would be the NSX, buy it now run for a few years and if all goes well sell it, buy an Elise of the same year as the begining one and blow the rest on a holiday
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ned

posted on 13/9/05 at 09:21 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
The 20" wheel, triple engined Vauxhall Norsa (702bhp @25,000 rpm) Nuff sed...


Which month was that, I don't remember it, let me know and i'll get the back issue.

cheers,

Ned.





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NS Dev

posted on 13/9/05 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
NSX is triumph of technology
Elise is a triumph of pure design

Chalk and Cheese a bit like comparing a Tornado with a Spitfire


a PERFECT summary of the differences, well put mr Trident!

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NS Dev

posted on 13/9/05 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
A little bird told me that the suspension of the NSX and Mclaren F1 bare more than a passing resemblance.



...................yes, in both cases connecting the wheels to the rest of the car.......................

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andyps

posted on 13/9/05 at 12:53 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Does anyone seriously take what EVO, REVS, MAXPOWER et al say? The 20" wheel, triple engined Vauxhall Norsa (702bhp @25,000 rpm) with 6 x 4" Chav Bling Exhaust' Mr. Wassap. Com pimp me ryde minga s'appnin' dude? Nuff sed...

I mean... come on, at least quote a real critique publication.


Classifying EVO with Revs and Laxpower is unfair - I certainly take EVO seriously, but never read the others. EVO is about performance cars, adn occasionally modified cars, but not in the chav category. One writer has a Mk1 capri with a 5ltr Rover V8, another is building an M3 to get round the ring in under 8 minutes.

In answer to the question, NSX - a truly special car, although I would also love an Elise.





Andy

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GaryM

posted on 13/9/05 at 03:38 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
A little bird told me that the suspension of the NSX and Mclaren F1 bare more than a passing resemblance.



...................yes, in both cases connecting the wheels to the rest of the car.......................


Interesting............obviously you're familar with both cars. What are the differences?

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Liam

posted on 13/9/05 at 05:15 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by andyps
another is building an M3 to get round the ring in under 8 minutes.


Hmmmm, a standard car and some driving lessons ought to do the trick!

Liam

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Jumpy Guy

posted on 14/9/05 at 12:52 PM Reply With Quote
EVO is like Maxpower? eh?

have you actually read either?

EVO is one of the most driver oriented magazines I've ever read. Ex touring car champion as a road tester, regular column from formula one test driver, most of the old Performance Car staffers are there now.
Yearly visit to Spa, Nurburgring etc etc

Cant think of a better mag to assess proper sports cars.


So there.

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andyps

posted on 15/9/05 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liam
quote:
Originally posted by andyps
another is building an M3 to get round the ring in under 8 minutes.


Hmmmm, a standard car and some driving lessons ought to do the trick!

Liam


Should have added - total budget for car and preparation is £15k, so it ruled out a new M3.





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NS Dev

posted on 16/9/05 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
EVO is like Maxpower? eh?

have you actually read either?

EVO is one of the most driver oriented magazines I've ever read. Ex touring car champion as a road tester, regular column from formula one test driver, most of the old Performance Car staffers are there now.
Yearly visit to Spa, Nurburgring etc etc

Cant think of a better mag to assess proper sports cars.


So there.


Have to say that EVO is a good mag. Very well written.

Everything is just a bit over my price range! Still excellent though!

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NS Dev

posted on 16/9/05 at 07:48 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
A little bird told me that the suspension of the NSX and Mclaren F1 bare more than a passing resemblance.



...................yes, in both cases connecting the wheels to the rest of the car.......................


Interesting............obviously you're familar with both cars. What are the differences?


That sounded nearly as sarky as my comment!

Ok, both cars have double wishbones front and rear.

Mclaren has carbon fibre uprights. Honda doesn't. Mclaren has short lightweight alloy dampers all round. Honda has long steel "strut-like" ones all round.

Saying that the two bear "more than a passing resemblance" is akin to saying that a locost does as well, because it uses double wishbones!

Incidentally I have a little vague familiarity with the F1 project (only very vague though!) as Mclaren used 2 Ultimas bought from my mate's company in the development of the F1. There is a chapter on the Ultima in the "official" Mclaren F1 book.

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Alez

posted on 16/9/05 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
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Alez

posted on 16/9/05 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
This one is nice too..

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GaryM

posted on 2/3/10 at 12:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
quote:
Originally posted by GaryM
A little bird told me that the suspension of the NSX and Mclaren F1 bare more than a passing resemblance.



...................yes, in both cases connecting the wheels to the rest of the car.......................


Interesting............obviously you're familar with both cars. What are the differences?


That sounded nearly as sarky as my comment!

Ok, both cars have double wishbones front and rear.

Mclaren has carbon fibre uprights. Honda doesn't. Mclaren has short lightweight alloy dampers all round. Honda has long steel "strut-like" ones all round.

Saying that the two bear "more than a passing resemblance" is akin to saying that a locost does as well, because it uses double wishbones!

Incidentally I have a little vague familiarity with the F1 project (only very vague though!) as Mclaren used 2 Ultimas bought from my mate's company in the development of the F1. There is a chapter on the Ultima in the "official" Mclaren F1 book.


Thats strange, because it's not what Mr. Murray writes in this article....

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3716819

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alistairolsen

posted on 2/3/10 at 12:48 PM Reply With Quote
Id only buy either to drive HARD, and a lot of it on track, and an 18 year old limited production car for which panels are near impossible to find is of no use to me.

If I wanted a rare car to collect and treasure it would be an old lotus, jaguar, porsche etc, not a 92 honda.





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cd.thomson

posted on 2/3/10 at 12:53 PM Reply With Quote
considering this thread is 4.5 years old, hes probably decided already.





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