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McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 12:46 PM

I'm starting a one-man campaign to get Worx back on the forum!

I'm sure he's learnt his lesson and hopefully all's blown over!

Can he be released please "the powers that be"?

I'm happy to write a catchy theme song if that would help?



Michael


Mr Whippy - 18/2/08 at 12:53 PM

you have to sing it on u-tube first

[Edited on 18/2/08 by Mr Whippy]


tegwin - 18/2/08 at 12:54 PM

Write the theeem toon...sing the theeem toon...



[Edited on 18/2/08 by tegwin]


Mr Whippy - 18/2/08 at 12:57 PM


twybrow - 18/2/08 at 01:17 PM

Sounds like a silly argument really. Lets hope they resolve it quickly and allow everyone back on (complete with the right status).

I am struggling to see why Worx was banned, as I can't see what he did wrong. I appreciate he helped someone change a photo on his profile, but so what!? I hope everyone concerned manages to climb down from their high-horses before you all fall off!


Mr Whippy - 18/2/08 at 01:28 PM

hmm if you look up his last post. It say’s 'offline' rather than 'Banned', which would lead me to the conclusion that he's not.


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 01:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
Sounds like a silly argument really. Lets hope they resolve it quickly and allow everyone back on (complete with the right status).

I am struggling to see why Worx was banned, as I can't see what he did wrong. I appreciate he helped someone change a photo on his profile, but so what!? I hope everyone concerned manages to climb down from their high-horses before you all fall off!


Yup!


iank - 18/2/08 at 01:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
hmm if you look up his last post. It say’s 'offline' rather than 'Banned', which would lead me to the conclusion that he's not.


If you look in the member list he's still got the banned tag.


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
hmm if you look up his last post. It say’s 'offline' rather than 'Banned', which would lead me to the conclusion that he's not.


Whipster - He's definately still banned. Depends on how you search for him as a user I think?

I've only just spoken to him and he's still banned.

"FRREEEE eeeee Worx Mandela! 12 days in captivty, (brake) Shoes too small to fit his feet (pedals)
His (car) body abused, but his mind is still free
You're so blind that you cannot see....."

OK, so the original lyrics will take a BIT of work....


JoelP - 18/2/08 at 01:39 PM

yeah baby!


Mr Whippy - 18/2/08 at 01:44 PM

"FRREEEE eeeee Worx Mandela! 12 days in captivty, (brake) Shoes too small to fit his feet (pedals)
His (car) body abused, but his mind is still free
You're so blind that you cannot see....."

WTF!

was that the lyrics? I thought you'd had some sort of mental breakdown It was just awful


graememk - 18/2/08 at 01:47 PM

i think chris is EVIL HA HA HA HA (evil laugh ?)

or maybe just upset with people telling him how to run his site, after all if you dont like it he isnt forcing you to log on, i had troble with trader status myself, didnt agree with it but after all its his rules on his site.

but come on "FREE WORX"


Benzine - 18/2/08 at 01:54 PM

l=r33 //0r><!!1111


Mr Whippy - 18/2/08 at 01:57 PM

Well I've only offered nice helpful suggestions of which not a single one has ever been implemented or commented on by Chris. Indeed I’m struggling to recall a single change to this site since I blessed it with my very first post (even this date is not celebrated which I take great personal affront too).

Benzine what have you been taking?


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 01:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
"FRREEEE eeeee Worx Mandela! 12 days in captivty, (brake) Shoes too small to fit his feet (pedals)
His (car) body abused, but his mind is still free
You're so blind that you cannot see....."

WTF!

was that the lyrics? I thought you'd had some sort of mental breakdown It was just awful


Had the breakdown years ago!

The original lyrics were awful - Yucky...

My campaign is gaining ground!


BenB - 18/2/08 at 02:02 PM

As much as I hate a kangeroo court what was done to get him banned in the first place?


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 02:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BenB
As much as I hate a kangeroo court what was done to get him banned in the first place?


Cough...

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=82507


BenB - 18/2/08 at 02:15 PM

So Worx stood up for MB Customs chappy who was pissed because his R1 being advertised had been taken off because the big boss doesn't take cheques....

Sounds like a playground pi$$ing competition to me

Surely wouldn't a sensible solution to be for MB Customs to send a cheque to Worx, Worx sends some paypal money to big boss Chris for MBC's trader status (with "I'm sorry X X X" in the information section), then everyone's a winner, lovely jubbly, jobs a good'un.

Then we can get on with the proper arguments in here like BECs vs CECs, torque vs BHP, blondes vs brunettes....

Or am I missing something


tegwin - 18/2/08 at 02:21 PM

In the words of Mag'


quote:

I DONT LIKE COCK FIGHTS


welderman - 18/2/08 at 02:21 PM

I have been un banned after my out burst about Malc and MB, but to my avail i have sent Chris a few u2u if he could do the same for Steve aka worX.
Come on Chris mate, let him back on,.

Joe


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 02:54 PM

Welderman- Now that IS a familar avatar...

Where have I seen that before??


fesycresy - 18/2/08 at 03:03 PM

Keep him banned I say.

Ban all gingers


welderman - 18/2/08 at 03:12 PM

And fat Welshmen


DarrenW - 18/2/08 at 03:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Keep him banned I say.

Ban all gingers





Ive just spat coffee all over my keyboard and fell off my chair. I bet even Steve would laugh at that. Brilliant

Let Steve back on so he can pass suitable comment.


fesycresy - 18/2/08 at 03:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by welderman
And fat Welshmen


BIG BONED

Darren, he's already passed comment


bob - 18/2/08 at 03:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Keep him banned I say.

Ban all gingers



Ooooppps thats chrisw banned then.

LOL


novacaine - 18/2/08 at 04:45 PM

i can sort of understand why MB CUSTOMS was banned, even if it is a bit harsh, it sets the standards doesnt it? if you let him off then the paid up traders would have the right to be a bit annoyed

but i cant understand why WORX was banned, he wasnt personal or offensive he just put up a point of view with evidence to back it up surely that doesnt derserve to be banned

it makes you think a bit more about what you write in your posts as to avoid going the same way.......


speedyxjs - 18/2/08 at 05:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Keep him banned I say.

Ban all gingers


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
LET ME STAY!!!


blakep82 - 18/2/08 at 06:18 PM

i wanted free stuff


Jon Ison - 18/2/08 at 06:24 PM

Time a line was drawn under the whole affair, I need to keep in contact with Mr Worx too....

http://www.guildofmotorendurance.co.uk/2008%206%20Hour/Entry%20pics.html

Check out the gezzers at number 6.


cloudy - 18/2/08 at 06:49 PM

I'd too like to add my support for Worx to be reinstated.

I own a 6000+ user forum, and offer advertising to commerical bodies, which then pays my (large) hosting bill. Trade posts are allowed by consent of the moderating team free of charge. We certainly don't see trade as freeloaders, rather an asset to the users that will provide a busier forum....

Certainly steve is a valuable regular here, and I don't see what a ban will achieve in this instance?

All opinion of course!

James


welderman - 18/2/08 at 07:32 PM

well im going to make the 48 mile trip to see our lostco'builder Steve in an hour or so, after the kids have gone to bed the wife said .
We can talk kit cars and my Fury build .
Also got him some hair dye as he wants to go blonde!!.


t.j. - 18/2/08 at 07:40 PM

I think he post something too much over the line?
Or U2U-ed something??

There was an advert in his undersign last post i've seen, was that the problem?
If Chris keeps this server on air by funding of the traders, i think it's fair to let them pay. A deal is a deal.

Hope they sort it out.

[Edited on 18/2/08 by t.j.]


stevebubs - 18/2/08 at 08:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by t.j.

Hope they sort it out.




Ditto.

This used to be a good resource. IMHO, it's much less so now and the arrival of the Haynes Roadster book with its own forum will probably reduce the influx of "new blood".

IMHO, The maintainers of this site need to buck their ideas up if they wish to keep it as a commercial venture and find a business model that works without alienating the people they're trying to attract.

TBH, I'm finding myself spending less and less time here - if they're not careful, the roadster forums are going to ramp up and make locostbuilders irrelevant.

A shame really. Wouldn't take that much to turn it around.


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 08:33 PM

Is there any new news ChrisW on the campaign?

Worx is without e-food, e-water....

He's nearly e-wasting away!

(Yeah ok...still a LONG way off that one...)


Guinness - 18/2/08 at 09:13 PM

I'm going to say this very quietly, but it seems a bit of an odd business model that ChrisW is following. The contributor thing / nag screen seems odd to me. I paid up, but it must be over a year ago now. Does my contributor status last for ever? Do only new members contribute? Presumably the level of income from that particular thing has dropped right down now.

Same with my MK owners club membership, I paid once, got a clear plastic card with a number stamped on it, but no expiry date. Am I am member for ever?

Cheers

Mike

P.S. Bring back Worx.


dhutch - 18/2/08 at 09:41 PM

I think the contributer thing is fair enough.

I dont know how much this site costs anyone to host, proberbly not a huge amount with the banner at the top right.
- However no one has to pay, and it doesnt really affect the functoinaly of the site if you dont. New members will join all the time.
- After 6months i paid up because i wanted to, and i thought it was proberbly fiar enough given it lasts forever.

The forum i co-run is totaly free to use, which in a way is how i feel it sort of should be on the internet.
- However we contantly get people offering to donate money, usally just after a glitch in the hosting, but for varous reasons its easier for the host not to accept, and he's happy running it out of his pocket, as he set it up 5 years ago or so.


We have just started selling window stickers as well, also on-profit making, although not foc!


Daniel


Bob C - 18/2/08 at 11:18 PM

Aye - Steve (worx) is a good guy - does excellent, painstaking work & gave a lot to this online community. Hope he's not too offended by the whole business ...
Bob


McLannahan - 18/2/08 at 11:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bob C
Aye - Steve (worx) is a good guy - does excellent, painstaking work & gave a lot to this online community. Hope he's not too offended by the whole business ...
Bob


That he is. Always willing to help boost the KC fraternity. Happy to take anyone that shows an interest out for a spin too.

Even happy to let me crash his car for him...

Such a shame....


welderman - 19/2/08 at 12:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by welderman
well im going to make the 48 mile trip to see our lostco'builder Steve in an hour or so, after the kids have gone to bed the wife said .
We can talk kit cars and my Fury build .
Also got him some hair dye as he wants to go blonde!!.



Just come home from Steves, cup of coffee and then bed, come on Chris give us our worX back.


ChrisW - 19/2/08 at 02:21 AM

To clear up a few things...

1. Three people were banned over the 'incident'. None of these were Malc (owner of the company in question) himself. Two of the three were allowed back on very quickly - around 36 hours if I remember correctly

2. Steve (worX) took it upon himself to use alternative usernames (Ares, A Nonny Mouse, etc) to stir up a load of trouble, and continue to promote his 'crusade', assuming I wouldn't work out it was him. It took me around half a day to go through all the fingerprint records, work out what he'd been up to, and clean up the mess. Most of these posts were removed during this time

3. Malc then decided he'd poke two fingers up with a post about how much more traffic he'd had on his website. Lets face it, an improvement over nothing isn't difficult. He is permanently banned, and his final post removed. If I have any reason to suspect he is posting under a different name, he will be dealt with in the same way as calvinx was a little while back by my solicitor

4. The contributor scheme may be an odd business model, but this isn't a business. The site is run by myself, with help from Fozzie, as a hobby. Each month the hosting bill is paid from my own pocket., and contributions keep my Paypal account topped up so I can buy bits and bobs off eBay for my cars. However, there is no need to contribute if you do not wish to do so.

5. worX will be allowed back as/when I see fit. I know he has another user name which he uses for u2u, and is using another user's account to post. Whilst this is going on, he will stay banned.

So, as you see, all is not as clear cut as you may think....

Cheers, Chris

[Edited on 2/19/2008 by ChrisW]


scootz - 19/2/08 at 09:59 AM

Hi Chris... could you do me a favour and finally give me 'Contributor' status - I appreciate its a minor thing, but that pop-up page is a right PITA!!!

Sorry for doing this on a thread, but I made a contribution about a year ago and you've ignored all my follow up emails, so what can I do!?


Fozzie - 19/2/08 at 10:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
..................... so what can I do!?


What everyone else who had problems did, u2u me!

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=76786

Copy and paste the PayPal receipt in a u2u to me, and I will sort it!

HTH Fozzie


Dangle_kt - 19/2/08 at 01:21 PM

Dont let the F*&$er back on!!

He is NOW busy working on the cars rather than FAFFING on a forum! The sooner he finishes the quicker I get my car to him, the quicker I get to stop making BRUM noises whilst sat in my chassis!!!!




welderman - 19/2/08 at 01:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Dont let the F*&$er back on!!

Do you mean Chris

JOKE
He is NOW busy working on the cars rather than FAFFING on a forum! The sooner he finishes the quicker I get my car to him, the quicker I get to stop making BRUM noises whilst sat in my chassis!!!!





paulmw - 19/2/08 at 01:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
Dont let the F*&$er back on!!

He is NOW busy working on the cars rather than FAFFING on a forum! The sooner he finishes the quicker I get my car to him, the quicker I get to stop making BRUM noises whilst sat in my chassis!!!!






I must be blind as I missed this debate. But I agree with the man above, keep him banned as he needs to finish my MK spec R first

But despite the various points Chris refers to nothing illegal or offensive has been posted. Forum sites only work with people like Steve so bring him back so we can start discussing cars again

Paul


DarrenW - 19/2/08 at 02:01 PM

All i can say that i support decision to ban Malc - the 'victory' post was uncalled for. A bit like an athlete getting cleared of drugs charges and snorting a line as he steps onto the podium to get his / her gold medal.

I think Steve just backed the wrong horse and kept digging. I hope he is reinstated soon. He was probs close to being reinstated before but was perhaps a little too quick to use some alternative user names. As far as i understand it the ban is only for posting on threads and not for accessing the site and communicating via U2U. More of a semi ban so we can all get some piece and quiet or a bit. Lets view it more as a holiday for the rest of us


Andy B - 19/2/08 at 02:06 PM

Posting here while I try and figure out if Ive sorted photo uploads
new fulcrum
new fulcrum


DarrenW - 19/2/08 at 02:08 PM

You have Andy and what a photo that is.

Truly worthy of a tangential hijack


McLannahan - 19/2/08 at 02:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
To clear up a few things...

1. Three people were banned over the 'incident'. None of these were Malc (owner of the company in question) himself. Two of the three were allowed back on very quickly - around 36 hours if I remember correctly

2. Steve (worX) took it upon himself to use alternative usernames (Ares, A Nonny Mouse, etc) to stir up a load of trouble, and continue to promote his 'crusade', assuming I wouldn't work out it was him. It took me around half a day to go through all the fingerprint records, work out what he'd been up to, and clean up the mess. Most of these posts were removed during this time

3. Malc then decided he'd poke two fingers up with a post about how much more traffic he'd had on his website. Lets face it, an improvement over nothing isn't difficult. He is permanently banned, and his final post removed. If I have any reason to suspect he is posting under a different name, he will be dealt with in the same way as calvinx was a little while back by my solicitor

4. The contributor scheme may be an odd business model, but this isn't a business. The site is run by myself, with help from Fozzie, as a hobby. Each month the hosting bill is paid from my own pocket., and contributions keep my Paypal account topped up so I can buy bits and bobs off eBay for my cars. However, there is no need to contribute if you do not wish to do so.

5. worX will be allowed back as/when I see fit. I know he has another user name which he uses for u2u, and is using another user's account to post. Whilst this is going on, he will stay banned.

So, as you see, all is not as clear cut as you may think....

Cheers, Chris

[Edited on 2/19/2008 by ChrisW]


ChrisW - I wasn't having a dig, just trying to straighten things out. I know Worx didn't intend anyone to get offended or upset. I think it all got out of hand quickly and I know many members jumped in a little too soon without thinking.

I know that other parties who became involved in the arguement were not Steve himself but friends trying to help him out. These may not have helped the situation but it wasn't their intention at the time.

I think your comment about Malc's business is a little unkind and a little blow the belt but I appreciate that's your opinion and he's broken your rules.

I think all involved got a little childish but I know Steve has kept to his word since it all kicked off and I genuinely think the forum is missing out by not having him here.

I've known Steve since Uni (some 12/14 years ago) and I know him very well. He's someone who's happy to help and I'm sure in this case it's ended up tripping him up.

Thanks all

Michael


welderman - 19/2/08 at 04:02 PM

Bugger it, keep Steve banned .

Dropped off a loom last night for him to sort out for the Fury build ive just got, so keep him banned until ive got it back.

freeeeeeee worXmandela (after the looms complete).


zilspeed - 19/2/08 at 05:25 PM

Liking the Fisher.

Friend of mine has one too with the lightweight chassis option.

It's quite well known around these parts.


With thanks to Seabass for a sniff of his bandwidth.




[Edited on 19/2/08 by zilspeed]


cloudy - 19/2/08 at 06:46 PM

Am I allowed to vote twice?

James


McLannahan - 19/2/08 at 07:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cloudy
Am I allowed to vote twice?

James


Damn right you are!


neilj37 - 19/2/08 at 08:11 PM

Can anyone join in ?


McLannahan - 19/2/08 at 08:47 PM

Please do!


fesycresy - 20/2/08 at 08:38 AM

Are we talking about the same person ?


quote:
Originally posted by Bob C
Aye - Steve (worx) is a good guy - does excellent, painstaking work & gave a lot to this online community. Hope he's not too offended by the whole business ...
Bob


DarrenW - 20/2/08 at 09:27 AM

I thought he was just a big mouth who talks a good talk but knows nowt



quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Are we talking about the same person ?


quote:
Originally posted by Bob C
Aye - Steve (worx) is a good guy - does excellent, painstaking work & gave a lot to this online community. Hope he's not too offended by the whole business ...
Bob


DarrenW - 20/2/08 at 09:28 AM

Its great when you know he cant answer back innit?


worX - 20/2/08 at 09:49 AM

Is that right???

quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Its great when you know he cant answer back innit?


welderman - 20/2/08 at 10:23 AM

ban him my looms not ready

only joking, good to see you back mate, yahoooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Edited on 20/2/08 by welderman]


bob - 20/2/08 at 10:29 AM

cool i can remove free ginger now


DarrenW - 20/2/08 at 10:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by worX
Is that right???
quote:
Originally posted by DarrenW
Its great when you know he cant answer back innit?





Bugger! Spoke to soon!!!


Nice to see you back.


worX - 20/2/08 at 11:15 AM

Ah well, at least I don't bear grudges!

Steve


McLannahan - 20/2/08 at 11:34 AM

Welcome back Worx!!

Thanks ChrisW for sorting that out much appreciated!

Can I start a campaign to ban Welderman?

No offence Joe - Just random!

Thanks all for your support - I can stop the run on the T Shirts and badges now!


Paul TigerB6 - 20/2/08 at 02:52 PM

Welcome back Steve. Unleashed on LB forum again at last!!


Jon Ison - 20/2/08 at 03:59 PM

FM & Medium as discussed, oh, welcome back btw.


welderman - 20/2/08 at 04:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by McLannahan
Welcome back Worx!!

Thanks ChrisW for sorting that out much appreciated!

Can I start a campaign to ban Welderman?

No offence Joe - Just random!

Thanks all for your support - I can stop the run on the T Shirts and badges now!


, It would be so easy to get banned mate. mate,


cloudy - 20/2/08 at 05:26 PM

Excellent, welcome back


matt.c - 20/2/08 at 11:55 PM

Nice to see you back again mate.


richard thomas - 21/2/08 at 01:31 PM

Does this mean gingers are still allowed then?