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eBay 'listening in' to emails ?
RazMan - 5/7/06 at 07:52 AM

....... or am I just paranoid?

I have noticed that when I reply to eBay user emails there is a kind of delay when typing - the letters come up on the screen a fraction of a second behind the keystrokes. It is almost like they are being routed through a 'proof reader' before being allowed, possibly being monitored to prevent any outside deals.
Also eBay seems to be censoring each ad before submission, weeding out 'hints' of separate deals outside the auctions, exchanges, offers etc.

Has anyone else noticed this?


zxrlocost - 5/7/06 at 08:14 AM

theyve been listening in for ages now mate thats why they put that code up and all etc

try replying to the person direct

also ebay will slowly try and take over the internet sales world I said this quite a while back

any other company with there customer service would have been investigated by trading standard by now

everything is cheesy auto replies

so by the time you get your proper reply 5 days have gone by


RazMan - 5/7/06 at 08:48 AM

I can appreciate that they need to keep an eye on their internal stuff, but it just seems a bit 'big brother' to vet the emails between auction users that choose not to use the eBay messages system.


Danozeman - 5/7/06 at 08:55 AM

quote:

I can appreciate that they need to keep an eye on their internal stuff, but it just seems a bit 'big brother' to vet the emails between auction users that choose not to use the eBay messages system.




They watch to see if your making an outside deal through them. I had a couple of warnings from them because a buyer had contacted me about purchasing an item and i sold another one i had and left the original on. One of the sales was conducted via private email not through them and they still knew.

Its just so they dont lose out on 20p fee.


zxrlocost - 5/7/06 at 08:55 AM

your quite right

afterall if google earth can show sat images of the top of my house for general internet users


imagine the quality of there video output
straight to base etc

afterall how the bleep can ebay stop me from selling items elsewhere

unless there trying to rule


martyn_16v - 5/7/06 at 09:15 AM

You're just being paranoid about the character delay. If anyone wanted to vet an email being passed through their system they would intercept it in transit, it's so much easier and more transparent than intercepting every character as it is typed into a dialog.


RazMan - 5/7/06 at 10:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by martyn_16v
You're just being paranoid about the character delay. If anyone wanted to vet an email being passed through their system they would intercept it in transit, it's so much easier and more transparent than intercepting every character as it is typed into a dialog.


So what causes the delay then? I'm not particularly worried by it - just interested as to how eBay can seemingly control or influence certain things.

In the past I have had one or two sale auctions refused until I edit the text to their liking. Things like 'other items for sale' and please 'email me' have been targeted - they must have some sophisticated text reading software to pick these up. I notice that some people have been entering stuff like ' no swaps (nudge nudge)' or 'no other parts available (wink wink)' to try and get around it.


chockymonster - 5/7/06 at 11:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
So what causes the delay then? I'm not particularly worried by it - just interested as to how eBay can seemingly control or influence certain things.



Poorly executed code.
I don't notice any delay when responding to messages.


JoelP - 5/7/06 at 12:13 PM

on a similar but different note, it seems phone companies can meddle with messages in your inbox, either edit or delete them. When you receive a text informing you of a missed call, any subsequent missed calls are edited onto the same message, so you dont end up with two messages. Not sure how they do it but that seems sneaky.


02GF74 - 5/7/06 at 01:25 PM

just to add to your paranoia .... I am sure I read somewhere the the secutiry service/police/MFI/aliens are able to monitor and access or internet traffic and telephone conversation, the latter being record, must be a blood big tape machine


RazMan - 5/7/06 at 02:34 PM

I've heard about these 'facilities' that some governments use (although it might just be urban myth) - they are apparently a very sophisticated word recognition doo dahs which monitor thousands of lines and flag up any conversations with certain 'alert' words like 'bomb, terrorist, explosive' etc.

Ooooooohh, I've probably just triggered one of them .......... they're probably coming to get me now AS WE SPEAK!!

..... or maybe its just me being paranoid again


scottc - 5/7/06 at 02:47 PM

and its called echelon.

The US have a huge base in harrogate called Menwith hill were they monitor all electronic communication.

Menwith


Peteff - 5/7/06 at 03:11 PM

Menwith Hill and Fylingdales are both surveillance stations monitoring your internet activity. Osama bin Laden.....Al Quaeda ..... plutonium .... North Korea.. That's just so they pick this one up


RazMan - 5/7/06 at 03:25 PM

This isn't doing my paranoia any good you know


martyn_16v - 5/7/06 at 06:11 PM

You'll be fine as long as no one says 'dirty bomb'.





Oh shi...


Mark Allanson - 5/7/06 at 06:32 PM

Talking of which, what the hell is this? Rescued attachment Secret.JPG
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Mark Allanson - 5/7/06 at 06:35 PM

Perhaps Arthur C Clarkes obelisk was just drifting past the M4 the day the image was taken


Stu16v - 5/7/06 at 07:29 PM

quote:

Talking of which, what the hell is this?


It's a building with a big, black roof!