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Ugliest production car
phelpsa - 29/10/04 at 02:53 PM

I believe it has got to be this:




Puts impreza owners to shame.

What do you think is the ugliest production car?


ned - 29/10/04 at 03:03 PM

ford scorpio was always rather controversial




[Edited on 29/10/04 by ned]


Chris Green - 29/10/04 at 03:06 PM

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liam.mccaffrey - 29/10/04 at 03:19 PM

the nissan primera is pretty hideous


phelpsa - 29/10/04 at 03:31 PM

http://www.uglycars.co.uk/uglycars.asp


Chris Green - 29/10/04 at 03:33 PM

The Z3 Coupe is gorgeous!

I can't believe its on uglycars.

Actually, I love loads of cars on there...

Frogeye Sprite
Anglia
TR7
Morgan Aero8
Renault Megane (New one, but only the 225 BHP Turbo!)



[Edited on 29-10-04 by Chris Green]


pbura - 29/10/04 at 03:45 PM

Woof!



Actually, the Fiat with the t*ts is uglier.

[Edited on 29/10/04 by pbura]


phelpsa - 29/10/04 at 03:47 PM

UUURRRRGGGHHHH

That is disgusting!


phelpsa - 29/10/04 at 03:54 PM

http://www.uglycars.co.uk/uglycar.asp?ref=24


mangogrooveworkshop - 29/10/04 at 04:05 PM

Think we went down this line of discussion with kit cars a while back. Agreed some of these cars are designer nightmares.


mangogrooveworkshop - 29/10/04 at 04:19 PM

Found this old thread that MarK A posted a while back along the same lines.
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=13803




Browser - 29/10/04 at 04:30 PM



Pagani Zonda.

MAHOOOOOOOOOSE!!!

[Edited on 29/10/04 by Browser]


stephen_gusterson - 29/10/04 at 06:00 PM

wow

someone other than me had just identifed that the piece of crap posing as a performance car is ugly!




atb

steve

who thinks that once your right foot gets used to scoobie power, you realise you may have well bought a kia


chrisg - 29/10/04 at 06:07 PM

The Renault Megane has rendered all such discussion useless.

It's the Everest of very ugly indeed, with the ford Ka at Snowdon type height.

Clever marketing to use the ugliest feature of an incredibly ugly car tho..

Did I mention that it's ugly?

I think they were going for "head turning" but finished up with "stomach turning".

Why do you have to spend £20,000 to get something shaped like a car?

Cheers

Chris

PS -ugly


Peteff - 29/10/04 at 06:28 PM

That one with the wide wheels and body kit must be eight feet wide. The back end of the latest Primera is also a tribute to bad taste.


alister667 - 29/10/04 at 07:09 PM

A Fiat that I thought was as ugly as sin was was the Fiat Coupe - you know the one with the line running up the side of it near the front arches.
God I hated that - most other folks seemd to like it tho'.
Beauty (and ugliness) is, I guess, in the eye of the beholder!


stephen_gusterson - 29/10/04 at 08:16 PM

we have one - well, my wife has and I have the credit agreement to prove it.

its actually quite a good car. but that bum end takes away all the boot space.

still - loads on the road and its summat like no 5 best seller in the uk right now!


atb

steve




quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
The Renault Megane has rendered all such discussion useless.

It's the Everest of very ugly indeed, with the ford Ka at Snowdon type height.

Clever marketing to use the ugliest feature of an incredibly ugly car tho..

Did I mention that it's ugly?

I think they were going for "head turning" but finished up with "stomach turning".

Why do you have to spend £20,000 to get something shaped like a car?

Cheers

Chris

PS -ugly


JoelP - 29/10/04 at 09:53 PM

5 stars on the megane, i believe, which is a major sell point to a family unit. butt ugly, if you'll 'scuse the pun...

tell me you were joking about the zonda...


Browser - 30/10/04 at 08:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
wow

someone other than me had just identifed that the piece of crap posing as a performance car is ugly!




atb

steve

who thinks that once your right foot gets used to scoobie power, you realise you may have well bought a kia


D'you mean the Pagani Steve? If so, I am glad to agree with you. Whoever designed it got the proportions all wrong. The cockpit is too far forward and it just ruins the lines of the whols car. Shame as, viewed in isolation, some of the parts are very nice.


stephen_gusterson - 30/10/04 at 09:43 AM

no

the impretza

apart from the engine you may as well buy a hyundai accent. the interiors better on the accent too


atb

steve


scotlad - 30/10/04 at 09:52 AM

thanks Alistair-i used to have one!!!!!seriously fast piece of kit though.....styling u love or hate!!!


chrisg - 30/10/04 at 12:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
we have one - well, my wife has and I have the credit agreement to prove it.



If your eyesights not good enough to see how incredibly ugly the Megane is then you shouldn't really be driving.

Just because something's popular it don't make it right - look at soap operas.

It's very, very ugly indeed.

It could be the best car in the world, I don't know what the interiors like, I've never got close enough without chucking up, but it must be the best place to be - because you can't see the styling(?) of it.

ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, ugly, etc...........

Cheers

Chris

Plus every other Renault is an apprentice ugly...........


skinny - 1/11/04 at 03:00 PM

new rolls royce.


mackie - 1/11/04 at 06:07 PM

I have to disagree on the zonda, the pontiac aztec has it as ugliest for me I think.
IMO the new Rolls looks amazing in the flesh, it looks way OTT in pictures but in the flesh it's just really really impossing, verging on elegant but definately imposing.
Now don't get me started on the V12 turd that is:



which costs £250,000 an looks like a £17k hyundai (which is actually a pretty good retirement-mobile):



Hellfire - 1/11/04 at 11:04 PM

New Bentley looks amazing... I think the pictures don't really do it justice, if you think the pictures look nice - in the flesh they look much better.




I quite like the Zonda too

Does that mean I have a inherant like for ugly cars?


stephen_gusterson - 1/11/04 at 11:17 PM

i think the bently looks a bit vulgar - but so does the current one.

atb

steve


Hellfire - 1/11/04 at 11:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
i think the bently looks a bit vulgar - but so does the current one.

atb

steve


Define vulgar Steve - in your own time!

PS I quite like the Rolls Royce too!

[Edited on 1-11-04 by Hellfire]


mackie - 2/11/04 at 09:12 AM

I think it's part of the job description that a Rolls or a Bentley be big, brutish and unsubtle. Just look a their heritage and the massive upright beasts they used to make in their prime.
If the Continental GT looked like a Ferrari 575 say, it'd just be a bit wrong I think. The 575 is a much prettier and more well proportioned car (612 less so) but they Bentley looks like a Bentley and I see far more of them being driven day to day which I think is a good thing

As for the Zonda I can agree that the cab-forward layout it not quite on the button but it fits with the jet fighter styling theme and it looks like an F14 from the side. It's a mighty car and I have deep respect for any autofit that can turn something like that out, even if it does cost £330k.

New Ferrari 430 is ugly. Too much bonnet and the lights are too small. The front scoops don't seem to relate to any other styling cue either.


ned - 10/11/04 at 02:08 PM

just seen this:




ouch!


andyps - 10/11/04 at 02:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alister667
A Fiat that I thought was as ugly as sin was was the Fiat Coupe - you know the one with the line running up the side of it near the front arches.
God I hated that - most other folks seemd to like it tho'.
Beauty (and ugliness) is, I guess, in the eye of the beholder!


And in my eye, as the beholder of a Fiat Coupe it is anything but ugly. I got it because I always loved the looks. But sitting in it is just as good and it goes very nicely too.

Also love the Pagini Zonda but haven't seen one for real yet, and may be a while before I can afford one.

Any current BMW takes some beating in the ugliness league.


skinny - 10/11/04 at 03:35 PM

i like the fiat too, if insurance wasn't so high and the engine wasn't as (reputedly) fragile, i would def buy one. saw the rolls on 5th gear, definitely an ugly car, so brash, and the lights are way too small. bentley is a much more pleasing shape. talking of brash, anyone seen the interior of the spyker (which looks like a daihatsu copen) agree with pagini thing, awful looking, completely wrong. veyron? bugatti eb whatever it was called? maclaren slr? so many bad looking supercars - making them different just to be different, ending up ugly. & no, it's not 'personality' (bmw...)

there is hope tho - there is at least 1 great looking supercar...



skinny - 10/11/04 at 04:06 PM

novel idea to base your car on one of the ugliest sea creatures...

from here...




to...








[Edited on 10/11/04 by skinny]


andyps - 10/11/04 at 05:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by skinny
i like the fiat too, if insurance wasn't so high and the engine wasn't as (reputedly) fragile



there is hope tho - there is at least 1 great looking supercar...



The engines are pretty strong, loads with over 100k miles, but can give problems whenthe boost is turned up - and there are lots around running up to 300bhp apparently.

Where is the picture of the great looking supercar then. You seem to have posted one of the Maserati Enzo


skinny - 11/11/04 at 09:27 AM

i heard they need belts changing every 20k miles or so, is that not true?

how about...



mackie - 11/11/04 at 09:33 AM

Nah it *costs* £20k to change the cam belt
I just got it changed on my Puma for the reasonable sum of £200. I've heard stories for the Fiat of it costing towards £1000 if not more.

After some thought I think this is the nicest looking of the current crop of insanely expensive cars.





[Edited on 11/11/04 by mackie]


andyps - 11/11/04 at 06:14 PM

Mackie - I agree that the Porsche is probably the best looking of the recent supercars, but also like the brutality of the Mclaren Merc.

The Fiat Coupe 20valve and turbo engine needs a cam belt change every 6 years or 72k miles according to Fiat, although an earlier change is generally recommended as failure does destroy the engine. A Fiat dealer would charge £1400 as they reckon it is an engine out job, but there are many specialists who charge from £400 including replacing the water pump, and all auxiliary belts.


skinny - 12/11/04 at 10:43 AM

£400 doesn't sound too bad at all. still going to take a bit of persuading to get my sights off my intended next car - 944.


andyps - 12/11/04 at 08:38 PM

Seem to have hijacked this thread a bit but....

The 944 is a good car, but the 20vt Fiat Coupe is quicker in a straight line than all bar the 944 turbo, and probably cheaper to run. My Brother had a 944S2 until recently, and has just changed it for a 968, presumably as it has more power than my car

Both make a good choice though, I went for the Fiat as they are newer which seemed a good idea considering the mileage I do - 16k in the 8 months I have had the Fiat.


skinny - 15/11/04 at 04:56 PM

ah dammit, thought i had my mind made up on the 944! ideally i would wait until i could afford the 944 S2 or turbo, but at the moment i'm looking at the significantly cheaper 2.5 lux... gotta try and keep on the porsche side of the fence or i'll get confused - the 944 is meant to handle real sweet, even if it's not so quick, i am not really interested in beating people away at the lights. anyway, it will be faster than the cinq!

... u don't get leather in the coupe do you?


andyps - 15/11/04 at 10:46 PM

The handling of the Porsche is almost certainly better than the Coupe - the rwd helps and all that, but not sure if the ultimate roadholding is better. The Fiat is probably not so good off the line if you want the clutch and tyres to last a reasonable time, but once it hits 3000rpm it flies and most things seem to disappear backwards! Fun against the boy racers

My coupe has leather and aircon, the latter being very rare in the Porsche, but the majority of 20valve turbo coupes have them both.


skinny - 16/11/04 at 09:50 AM

mmmmm i really want leather and aircon, i have yet to find a 944 anywhere near my price range that has both, it's difficult enough to find a 944 that has either!

just done a bit of research - i can get a 944 s2 or a turbo for the price of a coupe (and i can't afford a s2 or a turbo). plus the insurance is higher for the fiat!

sticking with the porka

[Edited on 16/11/04 by skinny]