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FAO experienced parents - Non desolving, desolvable stiches Question
Agriv8 - 4/5/10 at 08:28 PM

Short Version of a long story little lad ( 2.5 years old ) had quite a few desolvable stiches in his hand last Tuesday at BRI in Bradford after referal from Airedale. ( re-arange glass floor table knock 'not listening to granma when she says - stand still and dont move' )

Anyway BRI Intructions were that they were disolvable and to unwrap afeter a week and all should be fine.

so took the bandages off this eve and discovered some very nice needle work but the stiches very much still there, tried VERY gently rubbing them and seem very much still atached.

I have left a message for comunity child nurse and if I get no response will call ward 2 ( childrens ward ) at BRI dinner time tomorow.

The wound is closed very nicely and dry so have re-dresed with sterile dressing and bandaged it back up.
But asking all you 'experinced Parents' If i should be collecting him from nursary tomorow dinner and getting him back to BRI or give it a few more days.

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Regards

The Agriv8's


MakeEverything - 4/5/10 at 08:34 PM

Ouch, poor little man.

They dont look like dissolvable stitches as they are normally black. The ones he has look like an old shoe lace!!

I think you might need to revisit the hospital to get them removed.


blakep82 - 4/5/10 at 08:34 PM

doesn't water help them disolve? gently rub with a wet cloth?


contaminated - 4/5/10 at 08:35 PM

They can take a while to dissolve, plus they only dissolve completely on the inside and not on the outside due to contact with body fluids. Doesn't look like there is any infection, so waiting a few days should be fine. That said, take littlun in if you're worried.


gavin174 - 4/5/10 at 08:36 PM

I am no expert..

but everytime i have had disolvable stitches they have been black, and appear to be alot thinner than those...


contaminated - 4/5/10 at 08:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything

They dont look like dissolvable stitches as they are normally black.


I think the colour can vary, but I would have said that they were usually white funnily enough.


myke pocock - 4/5/10 at 08:38 PM

Any questions ?, go back. They are the experts.


jacko - 4/5/10 at 08:39 PM

I had de solvable stitches after my hernia op but they did not desolve
So i would take him back for a check up


Bumble - 4/5/10 at 08:39 PM

As you say the stictches look fine and healing nicely...no sign of infection. If worried pop along to your GP or Nurse and get them checked out. They can take a while to dissolve though if it's any comfort.


skinned knuckles - 4/5/10 at 08:43 PM

too hard to say what kind of suture they are but i can say that they look ready to come out whatever kind they are.

it isn't uncommon for the wrong kind of suture to be put in by maistake(happened to me twice now, but i just take them out myself) so i'd take the little fella to the G.P. for a check and peobable removal (most G.P's have a nurse on site that will do this without an appointment if you are willing to wait for a fre slot)


daniel mason - 4/5/10 at 08:52 PM

when i went in to get the 35 stiches removed from my hand after an accident with a window,i got home and discovered they had left 5 stitches still in my hand! i took them out myself also, but obviously would not recommend doing this with your lad! whatever happens i hope it gets sorted easily and that he is ok


tomprescott - 4/5/10 at 09:02 PM

Whenever I've had dissolve stitches (bout 6 times from split eyebrows, cut arms and other various rugby injuries) they've been skinnier than that and black. Usually pick them out after a day or two, left them in once for three weeks and they didn't fully dissolve so picked them out again. That said, when I soaked them for half an hour plus in a really hot bath they did seem to soften up a bit so maybe they just needed more time in hot baths (I usually have cold showers) but might be a bit much for a little kid, I'd suggest as everyone else has taking him back if you have any concerns - get a refund

At least he *might* have a cool scar to show off to his friends!


BenB - 4/5/10 at 09:06 PM

Dissolving stitches do take a while to dissolve and colours no help- you can get undyed in most stitch types. They rely on the immune system attacking the stitch. Vicryl takes about 21 days to dissolve fully, Vicryl rapide takes less than a week. Depends what they used....

Those stitches don't look like they've been in too long (you start getting inflammation around the puncture wounds). Best option would be to leave it some time yet.


Fozzie - 4/5/10 at 09:09 PM

Poor little chap ...

Had this quite a few times with my crew....as others have said, the wound looks good, so no worry there... I would be inclined to pop him down the the gp practice, and let the nurse have a look as to whether they are dissolving stitches or not and of course, to reassure you

Fozzie

Edit to add... Ben replied whilst I was composing...so ignore my suggestions please

[Edited on 4-5-10 by Fozzie]


Agriv8 - 4/5/10 at 09:24 PM

Thanks Peeps.

Should add he in no distress with the wound just get upset about returning to hospital

Unfortunatly his first visit involves him being starved (no solids or fluids from 8 pm Monday until op which was due to be first thing Tuesday but due to an admin mix up then a couple of emergencied he was not operated on until 15:30 !! )Tuesday afternoon so nearly 19.5 hours before he was allowed fluids. (Pore dot was beside himself )

unfortunatly a 2.5 year old is not old enough to undersatnd that he can't drink because he is waitng for an operation.

Anyhow I will keep trying the Comunity nurse tomorow and if I get no joy will book him into the local doctors.


Dusty - 4/5/10 at 09:43 PM

Vicryl/Dexon will only be 'dissolving' under the skin surface. Hot soaks will not help and may upset the wound healing. Leave alone as they look fine at the moment. Most minor wounds in healthy young people in normal environments are best left uncovered at this stage. There will be a reaction going on under the skin which can make them a little more painful to pull out. Hospital attendance will remind him of them being put in. The slight pain of removal might also put him off the GP surgery for the future if done there. Your GP could cut them flush if they catch on things. They may be about to fall of anyway.
I would say leave alone as long as they continue to look as they do in the pic.


mad4x4 - 5/5/10 at 05:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Poor little chap ...

Had this quite a few times with my crew....as others have said, the wound looks good, so no worry there... I would be inclined to pop him down the the gp practice, and let the nurse have a look as to whether they are dissolving stitches or not and of course, to reassure you

Fozzie

Edit to add... Ben replied whilst I was composing...so ignore my suggestions please

[Edited on 4-5-10 by Fozzie]



A Good GP / GP nurse will remove them but let them know when you make the appointment that wee man needs stiches out.


Agriv8 - 5/5/10 at 08:30 AM

community nurse has made contact,

looking at his case notes they say the stiches could take upto 6 weeeks to desolve.

instuction keep it clean and dry let it 'breath' overnight ok to trim excess stich cord to stop it getting entangled.

check for inflamation / infection every couple of days report back in a week with an update

REgards

Agriv8


edspurrier - 5/5/10 at 09:55 AM

Looks like vicryl rapide which will take a couple of weeks to disolve and drop off. Keep the wound clean and mostly dry for the first couple of weeks and have your GP check the wound if it starts to look red or discharges anything. If they don't drop out they can be removed.


Vindi_andy - 5/5/10 at 11:00 AM

Have had disolving stitches twice.

First time were quite thick and didnt disolve after 6 months had to have them removed surgically.

Second time they were very thin and the inside disolved and the external tails came off after about 2 weeks


Fozzie - 5/5/10 at 11:34 AM

I will be having a load next Wednesday.....don't know whether they will be the ordinary or dissolving variety though....

Fozzie


Agriv8 - 5/5/10 at 04:26 PM

ATB and good luck Fozzie.

regards

Agriv8


Fozzie - 5/5/10 at 05:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Agriv8
ATB and good luck Fozzie.

regards

Agriv8


Thanks Agri....
Fozzie


Fozzie - 17/5/10 at 08:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
I will be having a load next Wednesday.....don't know whether they will be the ordinary or dissolving variety though....

Fozzie


Well ...it went ok, and the top layer are 'ordinary' ones ...not dissolvables ....a pressure dressing on top.

The stitches are due out 12 days after op ....

How is littl'un doing Agri?

Fozzie


Agriv8 - 18/5/10 at 05:01 PM

he is doing well Thanks fozzie,

last 2 wernt falling out so he was asleep and dosed up with calpol the other night ( back teeth giving him jip ) so took the opertunity to *cough* tease *cough* them out.

ATB for a speedy recovery and you not being in too much discomfort.

Keep up the good work keep 'us lot' on the srait and narrow.

regards

Agriv8


Fozzie - 18/5/10 at 05:42 PM

Awww......I'm so pleased he is doing well, and the stitches are now gone ... ....(don't tell anyone, but I would have done the same as you did......as long as I was sure all was healed... )

Each day is a little better with me thanks
Not sleeping too well though, and one handed typing is driving me insane(r) .... but every day is a little less painful ...

Again, really pleased that the little fella is ok...at least at his age, he has hope of forgetting all about it in time to come ...

Fozzie