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VW Corrado v Audi Coupe
scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:12 PM

Similar weight and dimensions, but assuming you had an RS4 engine going spare, then which one would be the better chassis to plonk it in?

Audi has the advantage in that it was designed for 4wd...

I've driven both, but it was a looooong time ago!




austin man - 5/12/09 at 09:15 PM

Corrado


JoelP - 5/12/09 at 09:20 PM

tough call. Corrado looks much better but the audi is a lot more subtle. There are loads of corrados with big engines, but ive never noticed audi coupes tuned up.


StevieB - 5/12/09 at 09:25 PM

Corrado.

Why go to all the effort of stuffing an RS4 engine into an Adi Coupe when you could have just bought and tweeked an S2.

Plus, the Corrado looks so much better as well and has a flip up spoiler for added pointless shininess.

ETA

Would the Audi likely be a quattro? That might change my mind a little bit...

[Edited on 5/12/09 by StevieB]


scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:26 PM

Mmmmmmm..... forgot about the flippy-uppy spoiler!


scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:29 PM

Audi's seem to be a bit cheaper to get hold off (few hundred quid)... don't really care about cosmetic condition - it would all be getting stripped back anyway (if indeed it happens!).

PS - the car photo's are just randoms off t'interweb.


JoelP - 5/12/09 at 09:38 PM

my problem with the corrado is that, whilst it is a nice car and something you would be pleased to look after, its still a bit of a boy racers car, and needs a few more years to mature to a classic (which it defiantely will do). IMHO.


tomgregory2000 - 5/12/09 at 09:45 PM

CORRADO!!!!!!!!!!!


tomgregory2000 - 5/12/09 at 09:45 PM

CORRADO!!!!!!!!!!!

I had one and it was fantastic

The only problem i had with mine was that i didnt fit in it

If you get one it MUST be the blue one that flips to purple, standard from the factory but its the best colour

[Edited on 5/12/09 by tomgregory2000]


scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:52 PM

I'm sensing a Corrado landslide here...


scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:53 PM

Can anyone remember how wide the trans-tunnel is (that would be my main concern as it's a front wheel drive and I'd want to convert to RWD).


scootz - 5/12/09 at 09:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by StevieB
ETA

Would the Audi likely be a quattro? That might change my mind a little bit...



Yep - 4WD or RWD,


franky - 5/12/09 at 09:58 PM

audi all the way, there's more room there too for that big lump. They're not so boy racer 'ish' too.

actually, sod that put it in a mk1 polo


zilspeed - 5/12/09 at 09:59 PM

I'm bound to say, "whichever is most likely to be able to be completed".

That means the B4 platform car then does it not ?

There's loads of examples of 80s with V8s in them, so it was meant to be really.

Corrado is engineering from the ground up.

An Audi 80 B4 badged up as a TDI is your car.
With steelies and hub caps...


scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:01 PM

Mk1 Polo... lol.

How about an A2!


thunderace - 5/12/09 at 10:04 PM

hade both 2.3 coupe and a storm ,iwould buy the a coupe again loved it but always wanted the cabrio.


scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:06 PM

Storm... was that an edition of the VR6?


tomgregory2000 - 5/12/09 at 10:08 PM

Yes it was

I found some pics of mine in my photos


corrado small
corrado small


scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:08 PM

Anyone know how the original Quattro's chassis handled in the real world?


scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tomgregory2000
Yes it was

I found some pics of mine in my photos


corrado small
corrado small




scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:19 PM

So far...

Audi 80 Coupe Pro's

Designed for 4WD.
Galvanised body.
Cheap and plentiful.
Path most travelled.

Audi 80 Coupe Neg's

Not as pretty.

VW Corrado Pro's

Better looking.
Better chassis.

VW Corrado Neg's

Boy Racer Image.
Designed for front wheel drive.


tomgregory2000 - 5/12/09 at 10:20 PM

Mine was only the 2L 16V though
They did fit a V6 but i wanted the G60 Supercharged one

There is a great culture with corrado owners as well

I had to mind curbs with those rear wheels


jeffw - 5/12/09 at 10:43 PM

The issue with all of the Audi Quattros of that period is that the majority of the engine is in front of the axle. It was only the B8 platform when this was less of a problem. The B7 RS4 was further back than the B5 but it was still an issue.

I would assume you would struggle to get a V8 in a Corrado without major surgery....not sure it would go in a S2 either.


scootz - 5/12/09 at 10:49 PM

It'll go into the 80 Coupe... been done plenty of times before.

I know what you mean about the engine being far forward though - the thought had crossed my mind too.

Having said that, the ali B7 RS4 engine doesn't weight a great deal more than the 4 pots originally found in the Coupe and it weighs less than the V6's.


jeffw - 6/12/09 at 07:23 AM

Speak to Doug at MRC ....I know you have had discussions with him before and he is more likely to know than anyone else I know.


scootz - 6/12/09 at 12:51 PM

Cheers Jeff...

MRC (along with a number of tuners) can obviously tweak the Bosch Motronic ECU's to run 'better' in the original platform (it's their business), but I don't think they fully understand that when people talk of running the FSi engine away from the car it was intended for... that they mean just that!

Doug was stating on PH that you can run the FSi system outside the B7 car with the OEM ECU's or even with an aftermarket ECU. Well, I spoke with one of his colleagues at MRC a while back and he didn't know if it could be done... was wiling to give it a go, but couldn't promise anything (except a substantial bill... and I do mean substantial!).

I discussed this situation with Bosch engineers who designed the RS4 Motronic twin-ECU system - they say it can't be done.

I've also approached every aftermarket ECU manufacturer from DTA to Motec... none can (as yet) supply a product that will run the V8 FSi.


SeaBass - 6/12/09 at 12:54 PM

IMHO your better to use a 90 Quattro Saloon shape.... Touring car style

That bubbly Coupe never looked quite right "from the rear" to me somehow.



P ? - 6/12/09 at 12:54 PM

a lil baised ive owned a corrado g60 1.8 supercharger, and currently own and run a corrado vr6 2.9 both are extremely awesome road driving cars

so i would say rado everytime go for it...

checkout corrado forums via google ive seen r32 engined corrados, even a 4x4 corrado they are the ppl to ask about anything C


scootz - 6/12/09 at 01:54 PM

Cheers guys... I'm liking that saloon!


jeffw - 6/12/09 at 02:11 PM

You need to speak to Doug or Mihnea....accept no substitutes.

It is going to be pricey, but you knew that already. A non-FSi 4.2 V8 would have been much easier


scootz - 6/12/09 at 02:17 PM

My engine is now non-FSi

Much cheaper to do this than to experiment with ECU's (without any guarantee's) and keeps the valves nice and clean!



scootz - 8/12/09 at 04:43 PM



alistairolsen - 8/12/09 at 04:54 PM

Proper engine porn!

Need more pics!!!!!!!


scootz - 8/12/09 at 05:18 PM

Hopefully get more next week when it's all done and dusted... have had to send the Manifolds back to have them extended by another 2" due to fouling on the Cam lids!

Bugger Bugger Bugger!