carcentric
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 09:10 PM |
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Terms
The term 'scuttle' seems to be used two ways:
1) the vertical panel that separates the engine compartment from the cockpit, and
2) the horizontal exterior panel under the windscreen.
Is it both (together) or either (separately) or just one (which one)?
Similarly, is a 'boot' a boot whether it can be enclosed or not?
Also, I've read about parts being made of 'elektron' - is that an old word for aluminum?
And a 'mud washer' is an oversize washer?
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 09:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carcentric
The term 'scuttle' seems to be used two ways:
1) the vertical panel that separates the engine compartment from the cockpit, and
2) the horizontal exterior panel under the windscreen.
Is it both (together) or either (separately) or just one (which one)?
I take this to mean, in a locost, the whole area behind the dash, as far as the engine. Thats the curved top, and what is also termed the firewall.
Similarly, is a 'boot' a boot whether it can be enclosed or not?
Boot is just english for trunk. There isnt a differentiation of being enclosed or not. If you mean like a the bed of a pickup, that wouldnt be a boot!
Also, I've read about parts being made of 'elektron' - is that an old word for aluminum?
Aluminium is the only work I know as an alternative for aluminum 
And a 'mud washer' is an oversize washer?
Its a BIG diameter washer with a small hole in it. In the UK I have also heard these called repair washers or tank washers. Example - a 25mm dia
washer with a 8mm hole.
atb
steve
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JoelP
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 09:49 PM |
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In case its relevant, i believe the word 'scuttle' has several more meanings, the most significant probably being to be er.. biblical
with a lady.  and of course that links us to crabs, which also scuttle.
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Spyderman
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 11:13 PM |
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Then there is also the abandoning and sinking of a ship. To scuttle!
My understanding of it's use in automotive terminology is the area between forward bulkhead or firewall (depending on front or rear engined) and
the dash panel. So the windscreen would be mounted onto the scuttle! This area can go down the sides to the waistline, but would not go below .
Terry
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MK Goldrush
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| posted on 28/9/03 at 11:16 PM |
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Elektron
The word "Elektron" is a trade name and indeed a metal. It was invented in 1920 by Chemische Fabrik Griesheim Elektron and is a magnesium
alloy, which; strength for strength; is 1/3 lighter than aluminium. It's name is synonymous with space travel as Elektron was used to
manufacture most of the components for the early Russian Space Exploration Programmes.
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CairB
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 11:45 AM |
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See http://www.magnesium-elektron.com/
It's just up the road from me.
I remember hearing tales of the alloy catching fire when being machined carelessly
Cheers,
Colin
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Simon
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 01:35 PM |
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Here's a scuttle
ATB
Simon
 
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carcentric
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 02:26 PM |
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[caption for photo above]
"Gitcher dam' scuttle off the kitchen table!"
New term of curiosity: moggy
I thought it referred only to Morgans, but I saw it on the Morris Minor Owner's Club page, too. So would it also apply to a Moretti?
And back to Locosts (actually Locusts): MDF
I know it's medium density fiberboard, but wonder if it's the same stuff we call MDF here. In 1/4" thick sheets, we see it drilled
with holes every 1" in every direction and call it pegboard (a wide variety of metal hangers are available to stick in the little holes for tool
hanging, etc.). Any thicker than that, though, and it's VERY heavy (much heavier than plywood). Seems to be made of sawdust glued together.
We also have some stuff called OSB (oriented strand board) which is made of flat wood chips varying in size from 1" across to several inches
across. It's a lot lighter than MDF per thickness, but less strong, too, unless . . . you fiberglass both sides in which case it's
terrific (if somewhat rough on its surface) and cheap. We tend to see it used here in house construction as subflooring or under roofing materials.
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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carcentric
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 02:31 PM |
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One more . . .
I keep reading about cellulose paint. When I hear cellulose, I think wood fiber, but from the context, I'm thinking cellulose paint is enamel
(or perhaps lacquer) but not an acrylic enamel or polyurethane. Close?
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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Spyderman
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 03:07 PM |
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Yup the Morris Minor owners have hijacked the name!
It is seldom used to describe a Morgan these days.
Er, what's a Moreti?
Yes MDF is the same thing here as well. Although we have another material called hardboard which is used for pegboard as well (glossy one side and
rough the other).
OSB is used the same here.
Cellulose is derived from trees.
Enamel is generally considered to be a harder than normal finish. Not nessesarily correct, but that is what most would think of it. Lacquer in paint
terms is usually the clear coat that goes into or onto paint finishes, so would be the better term!
Terry
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carcentric
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 04:40 PM |
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So I'm left wondering - what's "cellulose" when referring to a paint?
The Moretti was a small GT coupe rebody of the Fiat 850 built in the mid-1960s - sort of a baby Ferrari 308GTB, fairly rare (at least over here) and
really cute!
M D "Doc" Nugent
http://www.carcentric.com
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 29/9/03 at 07:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carcentric
So I'm left wondering - what's "cellulose" when referring to a paint?
The Moretti was a small GT coupe rebody of the Fiat 850 built in the mid-1960s - sort of a baby Ferrari 308GTB, fairly rare (at least over here) and
really cute!
It could well be the same material as celly is an organic material.
In the UK 'moggy' is also the nickname for a common house cat.
atb
steve
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kiwirex
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| posted on 30/9/03 at 08:58 AM |
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> New term of curiosity: moggy
A cat of indeterminate parentage.
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Alan B
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 09:11 PM |
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Cellulose = lacquer
I had to learn all this stuff when I moved out here 9 years ago....
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 6/10/03 at 09:25 PM |
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Lacquer is any air drying paint - C&G 1980!
The scuttle is the horizontal part of our 'scuttle', the vertical part is the upper part of a split bulkhead.
In remote estimating (arguing over the phone with insurance co engineers) the terminology has got to fairly precise or we would end up repairing the
wrong bit or the insurance company would be paying for something else - and we couldn't have that - could we!
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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