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scutter

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:21 PM Reply With Quote
Taking guesses on BHP

I've my rolling road tomorrow, thought it'd be a bit of fun to take guesses on what power it'll make.

ST170 engine,
GSX-R 750 throttle bodies on ST manifold,
VVT pluged in, No Cat
Vernier pulley on Exhaust cam.
Omex 500 ecu,

I'll be happy with anything over 180. assuming it doesn't blow up

ATB Dan.





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tomgregory2000

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:23 PM Reply With Quote
153 bhp at the WHEELS though
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scootz

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
150 BHP





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omega0684

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
why don't you have a vernier on the inlet cam?





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perksy

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
195 brake at the flywheel
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MakeEverything

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:28 PM Reply With Quote
163bhp at the wheels.





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Mark Allanson

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
210 bhp down the pub





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posted on 5/8/10 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
210 bhp down the pub








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blakep82

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
ooooooh, at least 10
er, dunno really, for an st170, i'd say 160bhp engine or wheels, dunno, say wheels





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scutter

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
why don't you have a vernier on the inlet cam?


Because the inlet has Variable Valve Timing, would be a bugger to adjust me thinks

I'd take 150 at the wheels. What does that normally workout at after trans losses?

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franky

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
If its a down hill dyno then 160+ at the wheels... otherwise about 154.282721bhp
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scutter

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
210 bhp down the pub


Mark, you know it adjusts with how many pints you have.





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MikeR

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:41 PM Reply With Quote
215 down the pub after the second pint.
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MakeEverything

posted on 5/8/10 at 09:48 PM Reply With Quote
315 after the fourth....





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omega 24 v6

posted on 5/8/10 at 10:22 PM Reply With Quote
165 At the wheels





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flak monkey

posted on 5/8/10 at 10:27 PM Reply With Quote
15-20% losses on a rwd car through transmission.

I reckon 150-155bhp at the wheels or 180-185 at the flywheel.





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thunderace

posted on 5/8/10 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
i tell evryone my xflow is 1100cc and 60bhp lol
when its 1700cc on twin 40s and around 135bhp lol
better fun that way.

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MakeEverything

posted on 5/8/10 at 10:34 PM Reply With Quote
Ive got a 1.3 badge im putting on the back of mine......





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speedyxjs

posted on 6/8/10 at 06:03 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
Ive got a 1.3 badge im putting on the back of mine......


lol. Thats a good idea

[Edited on 6-8-10 by speedyxjs]





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scutter

posted on 6/8/10 at 11:45 AM Reply With Quote
Well back with 180 in the stable. Didn't play with the exhaust cam and he thinks the exhaust collector could realise a few more ponies.

All in all very nice to drive, going to fix the dip in torque and play with cam after a cheeky cam regrind and i've seen what it's like to live with.

ATB Dan.


rolling road 05/08/10
rolling road 05/08/10


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hicost

posted on 6/8/10 at 07:40 PM Reply With Quote
VVT

Hi Dan

Is the dip in the power around the VVT kicking in?

Is it flowing enough air and what was the AFR map like?





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hicost

posted on 6/8/10 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
Hmm

Looking at it again, sort that dip out and I think it will make more power, it is struggling to revover from that dip at 4000 / 4500 rpm its all over by 6500.

Almost looks like its bad fueling before it comes on boost





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scutter

posted on 6/8/10 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
The VVT does kick in at 4000, I'm ashamed to say but todays run was to get me on the road and was mostly limited by money.

From what i can remember, the afr went very rich at that point, down to 12.5. It did have serveral dips in it.

ATB Dan.





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hicost

posted on 6/8/10 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
Fueling

So it sounds like it was cam timing or a lack of air then, it should have been able to use the fuel?

Did they swing the cam / Cams





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scutter

posted on 6/8/10 at 08:30 PM Reply With Quote
No, he wanted me to drive it for a few weeks then taking it back with any issues, strangley it does feel flatter (if that make sence) than the old engine.

ATB Dan.





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