Took the toy car for its MOT last week... started easily, drove to the garage, turned on my headlights, etc, everything fine - but then I tried to
start the engine so I could get it off the ramp and into the brake test rollers - no go, all I got was a clunk. Got it going again by bump-starting
on the rollers, then left it running while I paid my dues and went home. Tested it today after charging the battery, and turning the headlights on
for a minute or two was enough to knock the battery voltage right down (and the voltage stayed down when the lights were turned off again). Took the
battery to the place I bought it from, and their tester showed that it was knackered (as all the evidence suggested).
Why "buggrit"? Because the battery had a 3-year guarantee, which ran out 2 weeks ago! Soddit... but at least the car passed, which is
good...
Argue the toss over 2 Weeks. Sales of goods act is on your side, its not just a final countdown.
I couldn't be bothered to argue - they're nice people anyway, and they've been good to me in the past on quite a few occasions. This
was actually a battery swapped under guarantee after the last one died at 2.5 years, and they replaced that without whingeing. My batteries seem to
last about 3 years on this car, despite being on a maintenance charger when the car's not in use; this sounds ideal, but in reality I don't
think it's the best way to treat a battery in the long term.
It wasn't a premium battery - just a general-purpose one - but not the cheapest budget one either. I must say that the manufacturer was pretty
good at matching the warranty to the battery life...
I would look at that as; the battery that you payed for has lasted 5.5 years; but then my glass is half full, not half empty.
I am also one of the 5% (ish) of people that wouldn't use a maintenance charger. (ducks for cover)
I am of the belief that batteries are made to use their stored energy, then be charged.
Constantly being kept at 105% charge doesn't prolong a batteries life, quite the opposite IMHO.
In general I also think that car owners are anal about batteries running down. They'll do a short run with AC, fans blowing,
their heated front & rear screens, mirrors, four headlights blazing, plus fog lights.....................
and yet refuse to switch on a couple of LED parking lights, which use 4/5ths of FA, when they come to a standstill.
Now it seems that if you hit an unlit car on a pitch black foggy night it's your fault.
Sorry, I'm bored. Just spent a week recovering from pneumonia and now my hands and feet are itching.
Paul G
I'm interested to know why you need a maintenance charger?
Mine just has a normal car battery but I only need to give it a top up charge maybe a couple of times a year. I use my car very infrequently and it
will quite happily sit for 3-4 months and start without a charge.
I do isolate the battery when left though.
Stu
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Originally posted by 907
I would look at that as; the battery that you payed for has lasted 5.5 years; but then my glass is half full, not half empty.
I am also one of the 5% (ish) of people that wouldn't use a maintenance charger. (ducks for cover)
I am of the belief that batteries are made to use their stored energy, then be charged.
Constantly being kept at 105% charge doesn't prolong a batteries life, quite the opposite IMHO.
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by 907
I would look at that as; the battery that you payed for has lasted 5.5 years; but then my glass is half full, not half empty.
I am also one of the 5% (ish) of people that wouldn't use a maintenance charger. (ducks for cover)
I am of the belief that batteries are made to use their stored energy, then be charged.
Constantly being kept at 105% charge doesn't prolong a batteries life, quite the opposite IMHO.
The 5.5 years life was the way I looked at it - I reckon that in the end I'd got a good deal. I cheerfully paid up for the new battery, and made a few jokes with them about the just-expired guarantee.
You may be right about keeping the battery charged all the time - although the normal car battery has quite a high lower limit (no less than around 90%, I believe). If you want to go lower then a deep-discharge battery is required - but they're not as good for starting engines. I might just let it rest between drives and check it every so often.
In a previous life I did business with battery companies.
One of their techies reckon to connect a 12v, low watt bulb across the terminals and when that dimmed it was time to re-charge.
Suspect that still applies, though that advice was in the days of simple lead-acid batteries.
HTH.
Cheers, Pewe10
[Edited on 27/3/17 by pewe]