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phelpsa - 24/7/04 at 08:58 AM

http://www.beardmorebros.co.uk/website%20pages/new_project.htm

Adam


Jasper - 24/7/04 at 10:15 AM

What a waste of fcuking time .....


mangogrooveworkshop - 24/7/04 at 10:42 AM

why didnt he put a ferrari engine in it..........just as pointless


Surrey Dave - 24/7/04 at 11:03 AM

Dont hold back Jasper, say what you really mean!!


Jasper - 24/7/04 at 11:09 AM

Sorry - normally known for my wonderful tack


givemethebighammer - 25/7/04 at 09:51 AM

each to their own, can't fault his engineering skills.


Viper - 25/7/04 at 12:08 PM

I think it's a great little car, realy wee of the impreza tossers and the NOS boys


phelpsa - 25/7/04 at 12:15 PM

Well said viper. If you'd read about it in the retro cars mag..... Carbon fibre body panels, double wishbone front and rear. Lovely car, bet it cost a bomb though


Simon - 25/7/04 at 09:09 PM

Well, according the article in Retro Cars, he wouldn't say what it cost, other than it took him 5 years and he spent about £60/week on it. 'bout £15k in my book.

Nicely done, even if you don't like/agree with it. He wants to use it as a CV to get a job in the trade!

ATB

Simon


Mark Allanson - 25/7/04 at 09:18 PM

As a CV it will probably work, I would give him a job

I not too keen on the external apperance, but hell its his car


JoelP - 25/7/04 at 09:24 PM

i spent a while reading his build story, i found it interesting.

It brought to mind an interesting discussion that IMHO was never laid to rest - is it better to make a chassis of fewer large tubes or many small ones? He has taken the fewer tubes approach, as (hopefully) shown in the attached picture, but is there any definite verdict on which approach is best?

regards, Joel. Rescued attachment goodchassis.jpg
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garage19 - 26/7/04 at 06:25 AM

I have followed this chaps progress for the last couple of years and think he is an absolute hereo of back garden engineering! Also check out his reliant kitten and lada riva projects.


JB - 26/7/04 at 11:45 AM

For ease of building stick to a 3" x 2" chassis and put a roll cage on top. You can put loads in anywhere and its simple and quick to build.

However if you want ultimate lightness and stiffness make a space frame with lots of smaller tubes. However it takes longer, is easier to screw up (loads not being distributed properly) and is difficult to build.

If I was to build another car I would use a 3" x 2" x 10 swg chassis and get it built quickly. However if I had followed this route on my latest car (space frame) I would have wished I had optomised everything with a space frame.

John

PS

Waste of 5 years..............5 years is a long time to build a car, but it sure demonstrates determination.

[Edited on 26/7/04 by JB]


Jasper - 26/7/04 at 12:00 PM

Better quality my first statement then - undoubtably a wonderful piece of engineering - but I just hate the look of it, if I had that much time and money to spend I woudn't want it to end up looking like that.

But hey - each to his own.......

Some very useful stuff on setting up suspension on his site - will certainly have a good read of that.

[Edited on 26/7/04 by Jasper]


Dave Ashurst - 26/7/04 at 09:38 PM

I saw him competing in it at Shelsley Walsh hillclimb in May, very impressive.

Dave


Peteff - 26/7/04 at 10:01 PM

I've read the site many times and am impressed by his ingenuity, engineering skills and dedication. I don't agree with everybodies projects, I know someone who is putting a 2.9 V6 in a Kitten, but whatever floats your boat.


phelpsa - 29/7/04 at 07:57 AM

Who would have thought of making a space framed minor?

Adam


andyps - 4/8/04 at 12:58 PM

I've seen the car regularly at Harewood Hillclimb this year and it is really impressive, superbly built and truly mid engined!