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BEC vs. CEC the Avatar Wars

Dangle_kt - 19/11/08 at 03:41 PM

How do you like them apples?

[Edited on 19/11/08 by Dangle_kt]

coozer - 19/11/08 at 03:46 PM

I'm not getting invovled in this one, not even going to post. OOPS

iank - 19/11/08 at 03:59 PM

Oh great a pointless flamewar.

nib1980 - 19/11/08 at 04:29 PM

where's mr whippy when you need him

Benzine - 19/11/08 at 04:30 PM

quote:
Originally posted by iank
Oh great a pointless flamewar.

Pointless? This is serious business.

001Ben - 19/11/08 at 04:49 PM

ha ha very true....

Benzine - 19/11/08 at 04:52 PM

chrisg - 19/11/08 at 05:03 PM

What do you do if you've got one of each?

Cheers

Chris

mcerd1 - 19/11/08 at 05:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
What do you do if you've got one of each?

make your mind up

I deciced my pinto wasn't heavy enough - so I added bits

[Edited on 19/11/08 by mcerd1]

Fozzie - 19/11/08 at 05:19 PM

Dangle, please can you reduce the width of you avatar? It should be around 150 pixels wide and yours is 315 pixels wide.......

Many thanks....

Fozzie (Admin)

Damn I wasn't going to post on this thread either! ...mutter mutter

The Great Fandango - 19/11/08 at 05:46 PM

Doesn't everyone know counting pixels is a sign of madness?

iank - 19/11/08 at 05:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Benzine

quote:
Originally posted by iank
Oh great a pointless flamewar.

Pointless? This is serious business.

Yes, pointless. It presupposes that one of BEC or CEC is best and generates heat without any chance of agreement.

BEC isn't better, CEC isn't better, they are just different, pick the one that suits what you want to do best.

Fozzie - 19/11/08 at 05:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by The Great Fandango
Doesn't everyone know counting pixels is a sign of madness?

Oh yes..absolutely

Totally raving!

Fozzie

IDONTBELEIVEIT - 19/11/08 at 06:20 PM

a bit controversial this,but the way i see it is that i have built this style of car to get cracking 0-60 times(BEC 1 cec NILL)to get round corners as fast as possible(BEC 2 cec NILL)noise BEC wins again (apart from maybe big block chevvies coming a close second
what else is there????
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mr henderson - 19/11/08 at 06:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by IDONTBELEIVEIT
a bit controversial this,but the way i see it is that i have built this style of car to get cracking 0-60 times(BEC 1 cec NILL)to get round corners as fast as possible(BEC 2 cec NILL)noise BEC wins again (apart from maybe big block chevvies coming a close second
what else is there????

Driving on normal roads (with other people around) and driving on motorways are two things that come to mind.

John

IDONTBELEIVEIT - 19/11/08 at 06:37 PM

who mentioned roads and motorways

quote:

Originally posted by IDONTBELEIVEIT

[Edited on 19/11/08 by IDONTBELEIVEIT]

[Edited on 19/11/08 by IDONTBELEIVEIT]

locoR1 - 19/11/08 at 06:38 PM

I'm not going to get involved in this, well maybe just the one post! my avatar says it all

Show me a CEC that can do a 1/4 mile in 12.1153sec for the same money

IDONTBELEIVEIT - 19/11/08 at 06:39 PM

bang on dave

[Edited on 19/11/08 by IDONTBELEIVEIT]
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Jon Ison - 19/11/08 at 06:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by IDONTBELEIVEIT
who mentioned roads and motorways

Got a tin top for that sorta thing.

To enter into the debate motorways, not a lot of fun in a CEC or a BEC, normal roads, give me a sissy BEC every time.

All my humble opinion btw but it wont change.

BenB - 19/11/08 at 06:47 PM

Isn't this like having an argument about which are better blondes or brunettes?

You need to make a direct comparison.

what you need is one of each

[the rest of message is deleted for being too rude]

Antnicuk - 19/11/08 at 07:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by locoR1
I'm not going to get involved in this, well maybe just the one post! my avatar says it all

Show me a CEC that can do a 1/4 mile in 12.1153sec for the same money

me neither

but look left and you will see one

i bet it cost a third of yours and i dont get flies in my teeth

LocoR1, nice build btw, just looked at your archive

turbos on bike engines should stay in bikes........

this is my old one

[Edited on 19-11-08 by Antnicuk]

Antnicuk - 19/11/08 at 07:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BenB
Isn't this like having an argument about which are better blondes or brunettes?

You need to make a direct comparison.

what you need is one of each

[the rest of message is deleted for being too rude]

we all know blondes are better!

hobbsy - 19/11/08 at 07:39 PM

quote:

Driving on normal roads (with other people around) and driving on motorways are two things that come to mind.

John

As posted by others I have a diesel tin top with cruise control for slogging up and down boring motorways.

For a fun toy at the moment for me a BEC is where its at.

Just to add another one in, how much does a sequential box for a CEC cost?

You gotta love lightening fast flat shifts with ignition cut.

Antnicuk - 19/11/08 at 08:00 PM

i have had lots of big bikes but never been in a BEC. If anyone in essex wants to swap test drives, i would like to see what all the fuss is about....... you may even convert me as i'm looking for another project

locoR1 - 19/11/08 at 08:01 PM

Antnicuk just trying to figure out where you car fits into this debate! Yours must be a REC
So your 500 BHP per ton is fairly useless in this debate thank god! looks like bec is still on top

Love the black and white looks on the Stylus

roadrunner - 19/11/08 at 08:23 PM

I have had both BEC and CEC and i know which one i am sticking with, all the way up to 13000 revs.

Volvorsport - 19/11/08 at 08:41 PM

i think the argument should really stem from which type of CEC you have .

i mean who can realistically buy a donor with the potential for 250 hp for �100 and build the car from it .

i know i can !

Antnicuk - 19/11/08 at 08:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Volvorsport
i think the argument should really stem from which type of CEC you have .

i mean who can realistically buy a donor with the potential for 250 hp for �100 and build the car from it .

i know i can !

me too!

Thanks Loco R1, if you are going to the pod anytime, give me a shout, i wouldnt mind seeing what mine will actually do in a straight line. In all seriousness, i think i would struggle with low 12s. What BHP is yours putting out?

Paul (Notts) - 19/11/08 at 09:10 PM

Why is it that the BEC brigade always have to try and start an argument over whose car is the best. ?

Anyone might get the impression that they have an inferiority complex over the size of the engine.

Paul

as with everything in life - Size matters

[Edited on 19/11/08 by Paul (Notts)]

[Edited on 19/11/08 by Paul (Notts)]

Antnicuk - 19/11/08 at 09:36 PM

oh dear..... mines only a 1.3

didnt anybody tell you, its not how big it is, its how how big the turbo is

Dangle_kt - 19/11/08 at 09:51 PM

HAHA!

I love winding you guys up.

My point is the same as last time.

You CEC boys insist on ripping into BEC cars, but we DO NOT do it to you. I am just proving a point.

How about you guys lay off the BEC bashing and start promoting the virtues of your choices rather than decrying others.

RANT OVER. LETS HUG!

I'll change my avatar back in a bit, but before I do I will leave my creation for posterity!

CEC Avatar

locoR1 - 20/11/08 at 07:42 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Antnicuk

Thanks Loco R1, if you are going to the pod anytime, give me a shout, i wouldnt mind seeing what mine will actually do in a straight line. In all seriousness, i think i would struggle with low 12s. What BHP is yours putting out?

Wont be till next year now but if i remember ill let you know,Will probably post a date up here see if we can get a cec / bec battle going on at the pod

A word of warning though its addictive, been twice now getting faster every time im determined to get into the 11s my best time was on my fifth ever run so gotta be more to come!

dave.............

Benzine - 20/11/08 at 09:35 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
HAHA!

I love winding you guys up.

My point is the same as last time.

You CEC boys insist on ripping into BEC cars, but we DO NOT do it to you. I am just proving a point.

How about you guys lay off the BEC bashing and start promoting the virtues of your choices rather than decrying others.

RANT OVER. LETS HUG!

because it's a joke and BEC people are easy to wind up XD

"but we DO NOT do it to you"
lol

RK - 20/11/08 at 02:06 PM
Some of my best friends have BEC's. Not that it matters of course.

C10CoryM - 21/11/08 at 03:53 AM
quote:
Originally posted by locoR1
Show me a CEC that can do a 1/4 mile in 12.1153sec for the same money

Mine should be able to
Here is a similar car running 11.9 ET I think it was.
http://www.whittlegroup.com/stalker/Video/2007-10-13%20Run%20N%20Gun%20Drag%20Strip.wmv
main page here
http://www.whittlegroup.com/stalker/

I looked into BEC but figured it would cost more, be less reliable and not keep up to my friends in their V8 cars.
If I built a stripped down track car I would go BEC I think.
Cheers.

roadrunner - 26/11/08 at 08:18 PM
Remember, if you have a big engine you are trying to make up for something else.

speedyxjs - 27/11/08 at 12:03 PM
How about a proper race to settle this? Not your normal race. Do it in reverse

David Jenkins - 27/11/08 at 12:32 PM
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
How about a proper race to settle this? Not your normal race. Do it in reverse

flak monkey - 27/11/08 at 12:38 PM
BEC's might take a bit of a knock when IVA comes in due to requiring a reverse gear. Suddenly adds quite an expense.

Lets face it, if you want a track car or one for quick sunday morning blats a BEC is the way to go.

If you want something for cruising and longer journeys, road use and with higher reliability go CEC.

Any of you BEC boys fancy coming down to spain in your cars with me next year?

David

RK - 27/11/08 at 01:39 PM
Get a supply of earplugs for them, and they'll all show up, and you'll pay for your trip!!!

C10CoryM - 27/11/08 at 02:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
Remember, if you have a big engine you are trying to make up for something else.

Wanna bet?

Besides, I've yet to see a locost with what I would call a "big engine". At 3.8L mine is the smallest engine I've had in one of my fun cars. Before that I guess the smallest would be a 5.8L. That being said, this is the smallest/lightest car I've built so far.
Cheers.

smart51 - 27/11/08 at 03:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
How about a proper race to settle this? Not your normal race. Do it in reverse

Doesn't the world record for highest speed in reverse belong to a Tiger BEC? 6 reverse gears?

Benzine - 27/11/08 at 07:22 PM
quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
Remember, if you have a big engine you are trying to make up for something else.

The reason I have a CEC is that I need all that extra torque to carry around the sheet weight of my penis