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Fisher Fury full windscreen donor

MadMaxx - 26/1/20 at 03:47 PM

Hi all,

three years ago I bought from Ricky Evans Motorsport an Elan S1/2 heated windscreen for my Fury at that time under fully rebuild thinking to use it in the next months. Thing changed and I'm only now finishing the job and going to test assembly the windscreen on the frame: there is a big missmatch between the windscreen and the frame due to both dimensions and shape.

The glass seems to be wider, shorter and with corners more rounded than the frame.

Could be that the Elan S3/4 windscreen is the correct one? Or could be other specifications that can make the differences?

MadMaxx - 26/1/20 at 04:01 PM

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tims31 - 27/1/20 at 11:55 AM

Definately an S3 windscreen and that is what Ricky Evans sold to me. I even asked him at the time if it was the S2 or S3 and he said the S3.

There are some images of the fitment on my build blog http://www.martinsfurybuild.co.uk/2017.html#Apr_2017

Bond the screen to the frame and then fit the seal to the edge. Its the same seal as a Ford Transit but cut down to a T shape and bonded to the screen.

Scoll down to the end of April 2017

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

MadMaxx - 27/1/20 at 01:31 PM

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Originally posted by tims31
Definately an S3 windscreen and that is what Ricky Evans sold to me. I even asked him at the time if it was the S2 or S3 and he said the S3.

There are some images of the fitment on my build blog http://www.martinsfurybuild.co.uk/2017.html#Apr_2017

Bond the screen to the frame and then fit the seal to the edge. Its the same seal as a Ford Transit but cut down to a T shape and bonded to the screen.

Scoll down to the end of April 2017

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

Thanks Tim,

it seems that I definitely bought a wrong screen. I'll try to contact Ricky and ask if I can make the swap between my heated S2 and a non heated S3 version, even if it's passed 3 years from the purchase. The screen is still packaged as received. If he accept it will still cost me a fortune for transport from and to Italy

tims31 - 27/1/20 at 01:45 PM

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Originally posted by MadMaxx

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Originally posted by tims31
Definately an S3 windscreen and that is what Ricky Evans sold to me. I even asked him at the time if it was the S2 or S3 and he said the S3.

There are some images of the fitment on my build blog http://www.martinsfurybuild.co.uk/2017.html#Apr_2017

Bond the screen to the frame and then fit the seal to the edge. Its the same seal as a Ford Transit but cut down to a T shape and bonded to the screen.

Scoll down to the end of April 2017

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

Thanks Tim,

it seems that I definitely bought a wrong screen. I'll try to contact Ricky and ask if I can make the swap between my heated S2 and a non heated S3 version, even if it's passed 3 years from the purchase. The screen is still packaged as received. If he accept it will still cost me a fortune for transport from and to Italy

I'm sure. It cost me enough to have it delivered in the UK.

Do you need the heated screen in Italy!

Just seen, you are in Bergamo. I was in Milan in October and flew into Bergamo, I should have popped in to see how your rebuild is going

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

MadMaxx - 27/1/20 at 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by tims31

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Originally posted by MadMaxx

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Originally posted by tims31
Definately an S3 windscreen and that is what Ricky Evans sold to me. I even asked him at the time if it was the S2 or S3 and he said the S3.

There are some images of the fitment on my build blog http://www.martinsfurybuild.co.uk/2017.html#Apr_2017

Bond the screen to the frame and then fit the seal to the edge. Its the same seal as a Ford Transit but cut down to a T shape and bonded to the screen.

Scoll down to the end of April 2017

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

Thanks Tim,

it seems that I definitely bought a wrong screen. I'll try to contact Ricky and ask if I can make the swap between my heated S2 and a non heated S3 version, even if it's passed 3 years from the purchase. The screen is still packaged as received. If he accept it will still cost me a fortune for transport from and to Italy

I'm sure. It cost me enough to have it delivered in the UK.

Do you need the heated screen in Italy!

Just seen, you are in Bergamo. I was in Milan in October and flew into Bergamo, I should have popped in to see how your rebuild is going

[Edited on 27/1/20 by tims31]

If I only knew you was in Bergamo I could collect you from the airport and show you my Fury and ask for some suggestions on how to finish the assembly against the payment of a couple of beers :-)

My Fury is a Spyder version, but with soft top and I'm planning to fabricate Lexan side screens and in the future an hardtop with gullwing doors. Not having heater to keep the car the ligthest I can I thought it could be clever to have a heated windscreen, but in these days I'm wiring it and realized that it will eat 40A that is the exact output of the generator of the CBR 919 and the battery is only 8A/h, so very little.

tims31 - 27/1/20 at 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by MadMaxx

If I only knew you was in Bergamo I could collect you from the airport and show you my Fury and ask for some suggestions on how to finish the assembly against the payment of a couple of beers :-)

I would definately taken you up on that.

Mine is the Spyder too, and need to sort something out about either a hard top or a hard rear unit with targa top removable panels. I just never seem to get the time at the moment, too busy with work.

MadMaxx - 28/1/20 at 09:24 AM

Ricky would not accept back the Elan S1/2 screen (because too long time passed from purchase) and the shipping + insurance cost will be higher than the cost of the screen itself, so I have to sell it by myself and buy a new Elan S3 screen and in Italy there is a very restricted market for Elan

[Edited on 28/1/20 by MadMaxx]

[Edited on 28/1/20 by MadMaxx]

tims31 - 28/1/20 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by MadMaxx
Ricky would not accept back the Elan S1/2 screen (because too long time passed from purchase) and the shipping + insurance cost will be higher than the cost of the screen itself, so I have to sell it by myself and buy a new Elan S3 screen and in Italy there is a very restricted market for Elan

[Edited on 28/1/20 by MadMaxx]

[Edited on 28/1/20 by MadMaxx]

I can only suggest you try and find a Lotus forum where there maybe someone who wants it. A long shot I guess but worthh a try.

One here https://lotuselan.net/forums/

[Edited on 28/1/20 by tims31]

scudderfish - 28/1/20 at 09:38 PM

https://www.seloc.org/ is another.

MadMaxx - 29/1/20 at 09:17 AM

Thank you for your suggestions. Selling in UK could be a little bit not competitive due to transport cost for shipping from Italy. But I'll try anyway

[Edited on 29/1/20 by MadMaxx]

adithorp - 29/1/20 at 03:23 PM

Fury ( and most other jp screened cars) take an S3 screen.

What you've got is an S3 screen. What you need is an S3 (which also fits very early S3. The later S3 is shallower with more wrap-around as you describe.

MadMaxx - 29/1/20 at 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by adithorp
Fury ( and most other jp screened cars) take an S3 screen.

What you've got is an S3 screen. What you need is an S3 (which also fits very early S3. The later S3 is shallower with more wrap-around as you describe.

I'm a little bit confused about the fact that I've got an S3 screen and I need an S3 screen. Is there a mistyping error?

adithorp - 29/1/20 at 05:38 PM

Fury uses an Elan S2 screen (sometimes listed as an S2/3 as it also fits very early Elan S3)
From your pictures and description what you have is an s3 (later one not shared with the S2).

There is some spurious info on the net that the fury has a S3 screen.
Sounds like you've been sent an S3 despite ordering (the correct) S2 screen.

adithorp - 30/1/20 at 07:13 AM

You'll probably also find that the top of the frame has dropped in the middle. It usually does and needs propping up and maybe a bit of heat applying to it for a few days to get the screen to fit.

MadMaxx - 30/1/20 at 09:28 AM

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Originally posted by adithorp
You'll probably also find that the top of the frame has dropped in the middle. It usually does and needs propping up and maybe a bit of heat applying to it for a few days to get the screen to fit.

This is a photo of the frame taken last week. During weekend I will work to the wiring loom and will take some photos of the screen on the frame without the plastic bag.

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ttalps2000 - 30/1/20 at 12:53 PM

My Stylus is a S2 screen and fitted fine. Same as the fury mostly

tims31 - 30/1/20 at 04:58 PM

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Originally posted by adithorp
Fury uses an Elan S2 screen (sometimes listed as an S2/3 as it also fits very early Elan S3)
From your pictures and description what you have is an s3 (later one not shared with the S2).

There is some spurious info on the net that the fury has a S3 screen.
Sounds like you've been sent an S3 despite ordering (the correct) S2 screen.

Now I am confused. I ordered a screen from Ricky Evans and had the exact same conversation before ordering regards S2 and S3 and he said it was an S3 screen and that is what the invoice I recieved with the screen says.

I guess asking Steve at Fury would be useful if you can get an answer although it does look like he has help there now.

As for the frame, I propped mine up in the middle with a block of wood while I fitted the screen and left it to bond for 24hrs before removing the tape holding at the top and the clamps I had in place.

[Edited on 30/1/20 by tims31]

MadMaxx - 30/1/20 at 05:09 PM

Looking to photos of S1/2 and S3/4 on the net, it seems that the screen of the S3/4 has lower edges sharper that those of the S1/2. If I consider my screen, ordered to Ricky Evans as S2 version, it is also wider and shorter compared to the Fury frame. Tomorrow I'll have the time to work on the Fury and I'll take some photos again of the screen, but out of the plastic bag.

Ricky told me that the right screen for Fury is the S3.

Now I want to be 100% sure before to place again an order.

MadMaxx - 5/2/20 at 02:13 PM

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MadMaxx - 5/2/20 at 02:19 PM

If on the right of the car the glass match the frame, on the left it overlaps. And anyway the lower corners of the glass are much more rounded compared to the frame.
Then probably, as Ady argued, could be necessary to heat the frame to let it match with the glass, but could be acceptable if dimensions and shape match.

tims31 - 5/2/20 at 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by MadMaxx
If on the right of the car the glass match the frame, on the left it overlaps. And anyway the lower corners of the glass are much more rounded compared to the frame.
Then probably, as Ady argued, could be necessary to heat the frame to let it match with the glass, but could be acceptable if dimensions and shape match.

By the looks of these images, you definately have the wrong screen. The bottom corners of the one you have are rounded where as the one I have has a sharp angled corner on the lower side.

Once you get the correct screen it should fit fine, even if it has sagged or moved a bit as it is quite flimsy. Once you have the bonding adhesive on and clamped to the frame it will fit fine.

MadMaxx - 5/2/20 at 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by tims31

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Originally posted by MadMaxx
If on the right of the car the glass match the frame, on the left it overlaps. And anyway the lower corners of the glass are much more rounded compared to the frame.
Then probably, as Ady argued, could be necessary to heat the frame to let it match with the glass, but could be acceptable if dimensions and shape match.

By the looks of these images, you definately have the wrong screen. The bottom corners of the one you have are rounded where as the one I have has a sharp angled corner on the lower side.

Once you get the correct screen it should fit fine, even if it has sagged or moved a bit as it is quite flimsy. Once you have the bonding adhesive on and clamped to the frame it will fit fine.

Thank you Tim. Now is clear. On Ricky Evans site I ordered the S1/2 version and is wrong. Now I try to sell it and order the S3/4 version that should fix the problem.

adithorp - 5/2/20 at 11:31 PM

I think you ordered the S2/2 and hot sent a wrongly packed labeled 3/4