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kev R1

posted on 8/2/06 at 08:41 PM Reply With Quote
savage start switch

can anyone shed any light on how i wire my start switch to light up? it works to start the engine but no light?
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Deckman001

posted on 8/2/06 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
You can either take a feed from the ilumination circuit, of take a feed from the ign live going to the switch ??

You have u2u as well

[Edited on 8/2/06 by Deckman001]

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kev R1

posted on 8/2/06 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
yeah cheers mate i know that but want to know which pins to wire it to.
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bigrich

posted on 8/2/06 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
12v in to pin1 12v out to starter solenoid pin2 then ignition live or side lamp feed to one lamp connection and earth the other if no illumination reverse lamp wires as its a diode and only flows one way round hope it makes sense to you
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RazMan

posted on 8/2/06 at 09:01 PM Reply With Quote
This might help... Rescued attachment Savage wiring.jpg
Rescued attachment Savage wiring.jpg






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bigrich

posted on 8/2/06 at 09:03 PM Reply With Quote
glad the diagram shows my memory is still ok
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kev R1

posted on 8/2/06 at 09:14 PM Reply With Quote
thanks guys,kev
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flak monkey

posted on 9/2/06 at 03:21 PM Reply With Quote
Got my 'Start' switch today. Just had a look in the Farnell catalogue at the actual switch block.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=1082353&N=401

Its only rated to 6A. I am thinking a relay might be needed??

David

[Edited on 9/2/06 by flak monkey]





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iank

posted on 9/2/06 at 03:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
Got my 'Start' switch today. Just had a look in the Farnell catalogue at the actual switch block.

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSearch/partDetail.jsp?SKU=1082353&N=401

Its only rated to 6A. I am thinking a relay might be needed??

David

[Edited on 9/2/06 by flak monkey]


Are you sure? This page claims 10A which should be fine...
http://www.motor-world.co.uk/kroozin/show_prod.php?prod_id=1380&PHPSESSID=5507910917b24e386799e8e29742dfa5

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flak monkey

posted on 9/2/06 at 03:27 PM Reply With Quote
I only know what Farnells say. Its definately the right block, and they (Farnell) arent usually wrong. But that is the current rating for AC, which IIRC is actually higher than the DC rating...

No doubt it will work without a relay, however the life of the switch will be seriously lowered.

David

[Edited on 9/2/06 by flak monkey]





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RazMan

posted on 9/2/06 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
Definitely do not connect without a relay. It is only a microswitch after all

*edit* Thinking about it again, the switch will only be closing a solenoid which can only be a few amps (less than 6A anyway) so it should be fine.

[Edited on 10-2-06 by RazMan]





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DarrenW

posted on 10/2/06 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
The start switch is fine without relay. Works great on my pinto. Defo rated higher than 6A.

For illumination, i just connected all centre + pins together and to the side light =ve. All -ve centre pins together and to chassis. Very easy and very neat.
If a switch does not illuminate even after correct wiring it could be that the LED has become detached after transit. Easy to open up, push bulb back into holder. Ive had 2 like that. No need to return to supplier.






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RazMan

posted on 10/2/06 at 10:50 AM Reply With Quote
You can always connect the led to the alternator light so that it lights up when you turn the ignition on and goes out when the engine has started.





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flak monkey

posted on 10/2/06 at 03:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
You can always connect the led to the alternator light so that it lights up when you turn the ignition on and goes out when the engine has started.


Exactly what I am going to do with mine

I think the contact ratings for the switch are per side (its actually a double microswitch) so across both switches it could take 12A. So I will connect both sides of the switch together. Should be ok I think. The starter relay/solenoid is on 2mm^2 cable on my escort loom. (Which will be running a Pinto eventually).

David





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wilkingj

posted on 10/2/06 at 08:38 PM Reply With Quote
Coo Its amazing what you learn on this forum...

I thought a Savage Start was:- Revs to Maximum... then Drop the Clutch


Edit:
I would always use a relay. Just pick up a handful every time you go to a scrap yard, they always come in handy for something or other

[Edited on 10/2/2006 by wilkingj]





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flak monkey

posted on 13/2/06 at 04:46 PM Reply With Quote
Well here is my solution. For those who cant be bothered to work it out themselves. The colours on your loom may not match mine, but you get the idea...

The numbers in brackets are the cable cross sections. START is the start button...

It should work! If anyone can see a problem with it, then shout...

[Edited on 13/2/06 by flak monkey] Rescued attachment savage start button wiring.jpg
Rescued attachment savage start button wiring.jpg






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