MNR Brands Hatch
Bryan Sears - 17/9/05 at 07:24 PM
Went to Brands Hatch today and had a fantastic ride in a Vortx R1
A chat with Mark and ended up ordering a car.
Thanks for your enthusiastic advice.
Look forward to the build.
Winston Todge - 17/9/05 at 07:44 PM
Great to hear it Bryan!
Did they get the misfire sorted in the end then?
Chris.
Bryan Sears - 17/9/05 at 07:56 PM
I went out early in the day and she went like a rocket! Brands Hatch had no bends today just kerbs that the car just flew over with ease. Cant wait to
fit my R1 and have a go in the drivers seat.
Winston Todge - 17/9/05 at 08:14 PM
Were you the bloke I was having a chat with about your R1 purchase from ebay? You were there with your son?
Excellent choice on the MNR though. Marc and Chris will certainly do everything to help you out.
The R1 developed a bit of a misfire later on just after my dad had his ride actually! I was next in the car and didn't really get to feel the
full ability of the car... Oh well, it's Marc and Chris and the lads that I feel sorry for, after spending so long cramming to get the car ready
and then to develop a tiny fault.
Chris.
Bryan Sears - 17/9/05 at 09:08 PM
Sorry about your ride in the car and the misfire I left before the problem started. I spent all day in a garage up at Rockingham circuit with a car
that would not start we changed the loom in the end.
Yes it was me. From what Mark was saying the car is selling really well.
G.Man - 17/9/05 at 10:31 PM
Fixed the misfire, but the mixture went lean so we had to change some settings in the carbs (needle height)..
Was pretty well sorted and for my help I had the pleasure of approximately 10 laps with Marc going full chat... I never saw my life flash before my
eyes, honest... 
First time I have been in a race car with someone else driving, its quite unnerving, especially paddock hill and surtees....
The main thing that scared me is just how fast mines gonna be with 350 bhp instead of 175....
Bryan, which model did you order?
I was the "other" big guy (6'5"
helping out Marc and Ian with the cars....
Apparently I will be getting chassis number 69
[Edited on 17/9/05 by G.Man]
Dillinger1977 - 18/9/05 at 09:03 AM
im gutted i couldnt go.. still havent had a go in a BEC yet and getting a lap of brands with a race driver is probably the best way to get introduced
to one!!
marc n - 18/9/05 at 11:38 AM
thanks to all who helped with the misfire especially mark aka g man,
slightly frustrating as the car had been rolling roaded two days before and had been spot on,
nether the less even with the misfire we where able anialate pretty much everything in the bends, then with the engine back on song we where really on
the money, damn that last session was fun !!!! 
all in all a great day, hope you all had as much fun as we did
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marc n - 18/9/05 at 11:39 AM
wish i had some better pics as these dont do the colour justice !!!!
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marc n - 18/9/05 at 11:42 AM
also welcome to one of our purchasers from brands Bryan and his family
Jon Ison - 18/9/05 at 11:42 AM
looks well, very well, what was the missfire, just looking for hints should i ever have same prob........
Winston Todge - 18/9/05 at 11:59 AM
Marc, thanks for the hospitality you, Chris and the gang extended to us. A great day had by all and just gutted for you lot that the engine developed
that misfire...
I'll have to make some excuse to see you up in Harrogate again and blag a go in a similar car to see what it can really do. What was the problem
in the end?
Chris.
marc n - 18/9/05 at 11:59 AM
cheers jon
misfire was the plug lead joiners arking out to chassis, spotted by our bike expert the g man he knows a bit about bikes , aslo the fueling
ended up way out somehow ????, had to adjust the mixture screws 1 1/2 turns to get it running somewhere near again !!!!!!!
marc n - 18/9/05 at 12:03 PM
glad you had a good day chris,
dont forget donnington has track time too may poss have my zx12 racecar finished by then, to go with the orange class b car,
class c car now officially dead ( smashed the gearbox to bits ) and will be stripped and all parts put in a new chassis and body for next year,
Winston Todge - 18/9/05 at 12:28 PM
Thanks Marc,
Whens Donnington then?
Here's a few piccies from our day out, maybe showing a slightly closer representation of that Flourescent Orange! Awesome colour... Rog should
have no problems standing out with that scheme!
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Winston Todge - 18/9/05 at 02:33 PM
Just to say that I had a fantastic day yesterday at Brands Hatch with my son Chris and the MNR team. As a passenger with Mark for 3 flat-out laps of
Brands Hatch in the Vortex R1 (yes - I remember the overtaking on the grass Mark!!) will be one of life's memorable events for me - absolutely
unforgettable! The car is simply awesome and so glad you sorted the misfire. I felt responsible as the last to ride before the trouble! I'm now
extremely envious of Chris and his build - no doubt I shall be able to wangle a drive or two I hope! Thanks to both Mark & Chris at MNR and good
luck to all you lucky builders!
Tom
G.Man - 18/9/05 at 03:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by marc n
cheers jon
misfire was the plug lead joiners arking out to chassis, spotted by our bike expert the g man he knows a bit about bikes , aslo the fueling
ended up way out somehow ????, had to adjust the mixture screws 1 1/2 turns to get it running somewhere near again !!!!!!!
And raised the needles...
The main problem was the needles... its not where the pedal is that matters its how open the CV carbs are.. as you were accelerating the lean spot was
right in the midrange, aka the "emissions test" zone...
Were you running with a high backpressure road can and exup valve, you would barely notice it, but on a race 4-2-1 and an open pipe its gonna hurt big
style...
On a rolling road, it probably wouldnt have showed up, but as the car did more miles and the day got warmer, that lean spot always makes itself
known...
Even raising the needles was not enough, you really need the needles and atomisers from a dynojet kit, or speak to Chris Alanson from Z-cars, as he
does a jet and needle kit for the R1 when used in a car which gives about 10% more power and a much better midrange...
You are probably rich at the top end now, but the extra open main is compensating for the lean midrange somewhat...
The last session was just awesome, the g-force at the bottom of paddock hill felt amazing, I must have been an inch shorter after those 10 odd laps...
ZX12 should be awesome, make sure you get one of these
t
hese and have it properly mapped to your exhaust etc...
andy d (rizla) - 18/9/05 at 04:11 PM
yep a great day at brands,and it will be there next year
top stuff to marc and chris,with a missfire even,nothing on the track could compete in the corners
well done guys
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mnr laptop - 18/9/05 at 05:49 PM
great pics
did take two cameras but we forgot to take pics
G.Man - 18/9/05 at 06:02 PM
Me too, wife had it with her in car... she was sleeping off an illness...
Winston Todge - 18/9/05 at 10:50 PM
You were right behind us Andy when you took that picture! That's me in the brown and yellow and Dad in the purple top...
Would have said hi if I knew!
I'm sure they'll be other chances though...
Chris.
marc n - 19/9/05 at 05:41 PM
i reackon your going to have to fight your dad for the keys when you have finished chris
glad you both enjoyed the day
Hellfire - 19/9/05 at 09:14 PM
I just loooooove that Orange colour!!
G.Man - 20/9/05 at 10:48 AM
LOL this thread is cracking me up now...
http://community.rhocar.org/index.php?showtopic=8996
Winston Todge - 20/9/05 at 11:48 AM
That is one funny thread Mark!
Good points well made... No one doubts Marc's abilities. Least of all my Dad who is still raving about the drive!
I really think that the proof will be in the pudding when Marc and MNR enter the RGB series next year. Can't wait to see how they fair against
the competition... Any jobs available as Spanner Monkey's Marc?
Chris.
[Edited on 20-9-05 by Winston Todge]
