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x_flow57

posted on 23/7/08 at 10:25 AM Reply With Quote
Fixing ideas needed.

Hi Folk

We are in the process of fitting a steel flip front to a Mini and need some sugestions on how to neatly secure to the "A" panels.

Dzus fastners look good but I don't think they are really up to the job as they tend to flex and will allow the front to "tizz"

Any other thoughts?

Nick

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Mr Whippy

posted on 23/7/08 at 10:32 AM Reply With Quote
So we’re talking about a mini flip front, how much does that weigh, 20kg? I think Dzus fastners are more than up to the job





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BenB

posted on 23/7/08 at 10:34 AM Reply With Quote
There are also different grades / types / sizes of Dzus fasteners.
If it's good enough for a 747 it's good enough for a mini

Have a butchers at the Dzus website...

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lsdweb

posted on 23/7/08 at 12:29 PM Reply With Quote
I used Dzus on my sprint and hillclimb mini and they were fine. They withstood some abuse, including the flattening of the front when I rolled it!

I had a small plate fixed behind the wing and the front just clamped to this with 2 dzus fasteners either side.

Wyn

[Edited on 23/7/08 by lsdweb]






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Mr Whippy

posted on 23/7/08 at 01:43 PM Reply With Quote
well there you go then if they can take that then no issues





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Mix

posted on 23/7/08 at 05:40 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

Dzus fasteners by their nature will always allow some movement / fretting between the two components they secure, this can be reduced by securing one edge by a different method, (a hinge is the usual method in aviation). There is another version of quick release fasteners that look similar to Dzus fasteners but are actually captive bolts with relatively 'quick' threads. These are used when joints are required to be more secure.

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x_flow57

posted on 23/7/08 at 06:22 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks for your thoughts.

This was exactly the reason for my question,
"Dzus fasteners by their nature will always allow some movement / fretting between the two components they secure"

What do we think of these?
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Mix

posted on 24/7/08 at 04:11 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

Don't mean to sound negative all the time but the type in your picture are generally referred to as Camloc fasteners and suffer the same problems as Dzus. Camlocs also have the annoying habit of wearing through the receptacle when you least want it.

I'll try and find an example of the fasteners I mentioned earlier and post pics.

Regards Mick

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Mix

posted on 24/7/08 at 05:04 PM Reply With Quote
Hi

I've been unable to find an example of the fastener I was referring to on the internet so would assume they are not really locost, in which case my suggestion would be to use anchor nuts.

Regards Mick

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iank

posted on 24/7/08 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
What about something like this
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=74_75&products_id=13862 plus
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=74_75&products_id=4484

or
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=74_75&products_id=315

You're not planning to SVA I presume.

[Edited on 24/7/08 by iank]





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x_flow57

posted on 25/7/08 at 09:26 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks, plenty of food for thought there.

There is no SVA involved.

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