[Edited on 9/10/2005 by TheGecko]
Why does no-one make a full body shell to go on a Locost chassis.
I'm sure they wouldn't be short of sales, as long as the style was right.
Fury/Phoenix/Ginetta stylee with optional hard top?
Anyone agree?
Pat...
I'm sure the challenger would fit the locost chassis with a bit of modification....
I'll have a word with Darren, see if he has any thoughts on the matter and see if he's willing to design something.
What, like this one
[Edited on 9/10/2005 by TheGecko]
The WLR is a moddied Mk chassis, not too dissimilar to a locost ??
WLR
Jason
Perhaps something dating from 1958 made in Sheffield....with doors and a removable hardtop would do the trick
I like the modded 11 , that from Australia ?
A pic would make it easier to asses ??????? 
Jason
TheGecko posted a picture of the CS Bella - manufactured here in sunny Brisbane - see http://www.whitepointer.com.au/bella.html
They're a good looking car, particularly from the rear
Biggest problem with a full body is that there is no longer a standard chassis on which to mount it!
Everyone adapts the chassis to their own requirements/characteristics.
If you are talking of "the book" as being the standard, then as far as I am aware most of the kit makers (Luego, MK, etc) have moved on from
the basics and increased dimensions of the chassis to suit. They then go on to make enclosed body style cars, and as there is more scope for
modification under an enclosed body, the chassis is changed.
It would be somewhat restrictive to design a body for a certain style chassis when the chassis is probably the easiest part to make.
As to making a hard-top? Some kit makers did and never got the cost of development back, so dropped the idea.
The car style has to be suitable for a hard top. Not many are, and simply making a hard top just because someone wants one is not justifiable.
If you were to survey a group of car owners if they would like a hard top then you might get a big percentage say yes.
So you go and make some and then ask the same people again if they want to buy one. You will get a much smaller percentage say yes.
These cars are not practical as everyday transport and because of that they are enjoyed all the more for it!
Sorry for getting on my soapbox!
Terry
No probs Mr Spyderman.
Just thinking that if someone did make a body that almost bolted straight on without hardly any mods, it would open up a whole new mod to everyone who
already has book chassis' as well as those still building one.
An alternative to either a dedicated shell and chassis or the original style.
Price would have to be right though.
Pat...
What's the Bella body worth??
I did ask the question of Reinhold from WhitePointer some time ago but didn't get a reply.....
I think you'll find that Whitepointer prices are very exxy, if his seat and other product prices are anything to go by.
He's going to have some competition soon, when some of my family move up there, and I start exporting up there as well!
Edit.. That body looks far too close to that thing that Jasper is building, Sylva Stylus, to not be a direct copy(flopmoulded), with a couple of minor
changes.
[Edited on 10/10/05 by Syd Bridge]
I was of the impression that most book chassis and their inspired kits (mk indy, mac1, luego locost/velocity, st locost to name but a few) are loosely
all based on the same overall chassis dimensions and i'd almost be willing to put money on the fact that they share the same wheelbase. the only
difference i can perceive is that most now run sierra track rather than escort track width.
I think there'd be plenty of scope to cover those markets imho.
I'm sure if you asked around you could buy an st phoenix shell or a fury tub or something.
Ned.
Just spoke to Darren, he recons that the Challenger would fit a standard locost chassis with only minor modification.
He basically said he'd be willing to sort a challenger body out for anyone that wanted one to fit a locost chassis.
HTH
Hi Ben,
Any chance of finding out a rough price for the bodywork - or will Daz be at Donny.
Cheers,
Pat...
Sorry mate, no prices. He does answer his mobile if you want to try it!
I have no idea if he will be there, sorry.
Ignore the tractor style wheels as this was made to originally go on a Ford Pop chassis way back when....
I have the moulds to make this beastie along with a hardtop. Mould was made in such a way that it enables doors to be added
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very pretty, like a baby cobra.
bet you'd sell quite a few if you put it back into production.
any pics of it with hardtop triton ?
cheers,
Mike
Hardtop is very similar to this but has a split screen with a grp screen surround/pillars.
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Hi Triton,
Do you need a willing volunteer with a nearly finished fireblade powered chassis?
Pat...
Triton that IS a very nice car
Cita
If you are up for a mad challenge Pat....could be just the kick in the backside i need as had it since beginning of the year and done nowt but clean
up the moulds
Thank you Mr Cita ......the old stuff is always the best
Mmmmm...Thank you MR. CITA
Can you repeat that please Triton
That car would look so pretty with newer wheels!!
I can feel another project coming on.
Was considering a Phoenix or Fury, but that is a little different. If you could adapt it to fit a book chassis, I'll put my order in!! (if the
wife lets me!)
Marcus
That's the cunning plan....if it fits the Locost it will fit the others...apart from needing wider arch extensions
Same body to fit all, but with a variety of wider flared arches depending on wheel/ donor?
Pat...
Indeedly
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
If you are up for a mad challenge Pat....could be just the kick in the backside i need as had it since beginning of the year and done nowt but clean up the moulds
It's currently 90" wheelbase but will need to be upped to suit the majority of 7's
Give the guy a chance...
Merely a dream at the moment!
Pat...
quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
Give the guy a chance...
Merely a dream at the moment!
Pat...
Yeah,
Let's hope Mr Triton pulls his finger out!
Pat...
No harm in being a dreamer.....in fact join the dreamers club.
It will have to be done then it seems.
quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
I think you'll find that Whitepointer prices are very exxy, if his seat and other product prices are anything to go by.
He's going to have some competition soon, when some of my family move up there, and I start exporting up there as well!
Edit.. That body looks far too close to that thing that Jasper is building, Sylva Stylus, to not be a direct copy(flopmoulded), with a couple of minor changes.
[Edited on 10/10/05 by Syd Bridge]
The exhaust would take some thinking as would the height of the rear arches to clear the top of the locost chassis.
"Spyder" type with aeroscreen and no doors anyone?
Other than that, if it's up to Tritons usual standards, I think he could be onto something a lot of people would be interetsed in.
Especially if it's an easy fit modification to any 7 esque chassis.
And a separate removable hard top with combined windscreen and doors?
The options/and ideas are endless.
Anyone else agree?
Pat...
Exhaust can stay where it is on a 7....as there will be space between the chassis and the body to create a box to cover it.....I would go for no doors climb in style especially if fitting to a Locost type chassis..that way the chassis can stay as it is.
Sounds good to me.
Pat...
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
It's currently 90" wheelbase but will need to be upped to suit the majority of 7's
Only main difference with all the 7's is the width at the very front of the chassis and the side height - locosts being 13" and MK, MAC1
etc, being 14".
Would like to see some more pics though,
especially of the back.
Pat...
Chassis height won't make a difference to the grp only the ali firewall would need to be longer/shorter....
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Weird picture really as it makes the car look huge but in fact it's more Midget sized
OOohhh,
Very sleek.
Just scanning to pics for you to ponder on Mark.
Pat...
Ok, Pic 1.
I think the "recessed mini" type headlights would look great - just like on the Challenger.
Pat...
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Pretty car that what is it?
As for recessed lights...yes indeedy
I converted a Mistral body for a Buckler earlier in the year to have similar headlight set up...not as hard is it looks when you drink enough coffee
Pic 2:
Phat arch idea???
I still think it would look nice locost low and rolling on 13's.
Pat...
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I can bring the coffee and offer a few days graft if you need a slave ;-)
Pat...
Dropped to the weeds is always best...keeps the floor panel shiney
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Dropped to the weeds is always best...keeps the floor panel shiney
More room than a "7" for carbies to hide under
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=32537&page=1#pid267151
Full bodied busa sport car?
Cross linked message posts...
The below car is the Hayabusa Prototype
Pics
http://www.suzukisport.com/english/product/hsp/hsp.html
Specs
http://www.suzukisport.com/english/product/hsp/hsp_spec.html
Hayabusa Prototype
Nice little package.....
Look on the "specs page" it has a stripped rolling chasis that could pass for a modern Uncle Ron Special danced out by suzuki. It has
pretty skin though....
Oooo, that's nice as well - but probably reflected in the price!
Triton, have you though about slightly shortening and vertically shaping off the back?
Would probably have to add 2 short outriggers for the far back of the shell.
Ooo, could also have a bigger fuel tank in there if done carefully!
Pat...
Mark, both pics are Lotus Elans - the real deal!
Got a book full of pics like that.
Pat...
quote:
Originally posted by Triton
.....I would go for no doors climb in style especially if fitting to a Locost type chassis..that way the chassis can stay as it is.
Lots of posts and not a peep from you Mr Hellfire - thought you'd of commented sooner!
Gull wings!
Pat...
What's with the negative waves moriarty......
If it never had doors it wouldn't have a roof....thought that was obvious
Nice arse
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quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Weird picture really as it makes the car look huge but in fact it's more Midget sized
though that would just be silly 
I think the idea is a "drop on" shell for a locost type chassis to accomcodate a larger potential audience.
People can easily upgrade thir cars, rather than building a complete new one.
Using a locost chassis should also keep the costs right down as no new engineering or fabrication will be required.
Sounds very good in theory.
Join the queue!
Pat...
quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
I think the idea is a "drop on" shell for a locost type chassis to accomcodate a larger potential audience.
Using a locost chassis should also keep the costs right down as no new engineering or fabrication will be required.
Sounds very good in theory.
Join the queue!
Pat...
As most chassis are almost the same width and wheel base, (all be it different width tracks) I'm sure it will be pretty damn close to being a
"universal fit".
Doesn't most bodywork need minor trimming/adjusting/fettling anyway on any car (especially if you've ever built a Tiger!).
We'll have to see what Mark comes up with, but I guess the queue is behind me ;-)
Pat...
[Edited on 12/10/05 by Avoneer]
Front end hinges like an E-type..no daft bonnets to try and squeeze things thru.
Spider style body for a 7 but may well end up being a kit in it's own right with doors.....one day!!!
Just for inspiration Mark, I think this is a bout as nice as full bodied ones get (pic courtesy of Jim Giblett):
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Suits you sir!!
Me lickey oldie more
I've been working on this concept for sometime, and this is one of my design ideas, for a modern locost shell.
Hope you like it
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a few more
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another
here is the other
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Nice, but a bit big!
Pat...
Easy to draw but the pattern work is not so easy and takes ages
And looks a tad more complicated and expensive!
Pat...
i've been thinking about a full bodied shell for the 7 as well, never got past the dreaming thou. There's gotta be a market for one surely
10's of thousands of golden nugget things to have something like that taken from a sketch to reality....
Heres a full body on a dutton chassis
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And another
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Apologies for the big size of the pictures!! my first posts.
I believe that it's not as difficult as it seems in the drawings, eventhough it would take and investment of 20 to 30,000 pounds for the mould
work.
That is if you are interested in manufacturing the kit and creating a production. If you create a one-off it would cost certainly less
Unfortunately prices for this type of work is expensive, and maybe that is why very few kit manufacturers venture into new designs, but instead stay
close to the well known kits, or recreate classic kits that have a following and a potential market.
Maybe in a distant future things will change, but these renderings will remain, for the time being, on paper!
Thanks for the comments
cheers
Italo
well i never, i actually quite like that dutton!
turned another to the way of the dutton jonno
quote:
Originally posted by Avoneer
Mark, both pics are Lotus Elans - the real deal!
Got a book full of pics like that.
Pat...
that dutton looks like a mallock k-sports or westfield xtr nose section to me and the artists impressions above look like a combo of db7/ puma at
front and smart coupe at rear..
i think i like them...
Ned
[Edited on 15/10/05 by ned]
bit of tinkering with photo shop an he-presto
based around the jag f-type prototype over a cateringvan chassis
hinged front as triton suggested doors hinge at the windscreen and would be for show only chassis would be 'as book' underneath
I like the idea for a full body for my Indy. I think it would be a good idea if we could get a little database of different 7's and thir
dimentions as not all chassis are the same. This would make it easier for the 'kit manufacturer' to make the mountings for each make of
chassis.
What say you?
How about this, it's Tritons body on an Indy chassis.
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It would have to some rad to fit in the space avaliable !!
Front does look nice though
Jason
I'm thinking Gulf Oils colours like my Mini?
Jag 'F' type,, Yes please
Jason
well you've got no chance with the 'f' type from Jag.
Dated a girl a few years ago who worked on designing the processes they use to build a car (what gets built when etc) and they didn't think they
could make it back then.
Got a friend coming round tonight who works for them and the main priority is making a profit at the moment - not sexy new cars with limited buyer
appeal like the f type (by buyer appeal i mean, only a few of us could afford it as apposed to would love to own it)
At the moment the body isn't wide enough for either a book Locost let alone the Indy, also it's got a 90"wheelbase......but these are small spuds compared to starting from scratch
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
well you've got no chance with the 'f' type from Jag.
Dated a girl a few years ago who worked on designing the processes they use to build a car (what gets built when etc) and they didn't think they could make it back then.
Got a friend coming round tonight who works for them and the main priority is making a profit at the moment - not sexy new cars with limited buyer appeal like the f type (by buyer appeal i mean, only a few of us could afford it as apposed to would love to own it)
and is so dam quiet when they want to be, nearly got run
over by one cos i didn't hear it comming !! So Mr Triton Sir, does this mean you are going to design a new body for us??
If so can we submit design ideas?
Oooh this is very exciting!! ( it don't take much to get me going!! just ask the wife!!! )
Also found this.... It's a Nota Streamliner and looks close to your body Mr Triton.
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Nota colour pic
[Edited on 24/11/05 by donut]
Of course as Mr Deckman001 said in a previous post, there is always this which i'm sure will (with a bit of fettling) will fit the MK Chassis as
it'sMK who build the modified chassis for these cars.
Or theres this from GTS!!
[Edited on 25/11/05 by donut]
I always wondered what that 11 body would look like with open (normal) wheelarches
I prefer the Nota Streamliner out of those pictures posted......the 11 for me is " been there done that" And the Nota is not that far off
the 581
Cheers
Mark:
So whats the plan stan? Are you able to modify the moulds so that the body of the 581 is the correct dimentions for Locosts, Mk's etc etc?
Will you be going ahead with it as i am interested.
OO yes and no mistake. I don't want to alter the moulds as they are almost 50yrs old or something daft like that so will make a body then modify
that to fit MK's Locosts etc then make a new set of moulds....the originals can then be put into storage.
Triton 581 has a nice ring to it and a name the diamond geeza i got the moulds from thought appropriate so the original name is retained in part
form.
Cheers
Mark
This happened on Friday in a county i was told never had snow.........
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Can you keep us posted on the progress of the Triton 581 body project pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze!!
Okey doke on the 581
"This happened on Friday in a county i was told never had snow......... "
Do you get the feeling that you've been lied to?
If you're a very good boy you can have light in your shed soon.
Why tamuchly sir....any more boards up ?
That isn't snow, its just a very aggressive strain of sleet
Good fun while it lasted even if the toyota drives the wrong end...
Daytona Beach Buggy?
I'm a bit of a nut so I like this one.
I have heard some rumours about molds being available.
That is not that far away from the 581...even looks like the fella from the Buckler club driving