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rayward - 8/4/05 at 06:03 PM

Hi all,


I am looking to replace the damaged bodywork on my car and just wondered if anyone had bought bodywork from GTS tuning, what's the quality like, how long did it take for deilvery etc...


Cheers

Ray


tom_loughlin - 8/4/05 at 07:03 PM

quality is excellent - i had no fitting problems, panels all lined up perfectly.

it was well packaged - i had it posted and was worried about the couriers but it arrived fine.

i have a blue gelcoat with some cabon bits - they are all great - and look the biz when fitted.

think he takes a couple of weeks from ordering to delevery, but it obviously depends on your choice of colour etc...

if you want any pics, give me a yell


ned - 8/4/05 at 08:26 PM

Beware there are two types of bodywork available from gts. The standard/old/traditional lowline stuff and the gts locost stuff. The gts locost stuff is taller over the engine and has a harsher angle on the nosecone, it also has different returns on the bonnet edges.

the lowline stuff is not great quality imho as i thin the moulds aren't in too good a condition. the gts new stuff is better quality, but personally i preferred the shape of the lowline stuff..

Hopefully i'm an odd one out, but it took months for my bodywork and it got damaged by the courier, though was eventually repaired free of charge.

Ned.

[Edited on 8/4/05 by ned]


Triton - 9/4/05 at 08:54 AM

Ned,
It's that yellow face that did it.....always wary of yellow faces

Mark


Triton - 9/4/05 at 08:56 AM

The new stuff is better because it was all made from one plug then divided up to make nosecone,bonnet and scuttle so shut lines are the best you will find on a Locost type car......same goes for the new W7DE


rash - 10/4/05 at 08:03 PM

i bought a scuttle/bonnet and nosecone in the new tall style from gts delivery was the worst delivery i have ever had on anything and the fit of the three items to each other is sh*t i spoke to darren at a show whilst waiting for delivery the reply i got was its all down to who shouts loudest i dont know if he has improved but for his sake i hope so??


rayward - 10/4/05 at 08:54 PM

Thanks for the replies guys, but i have decided to go with the ST bodywork, i think it will be worth the extra cost in the end.

Ray


dozracing - 11/4/05 at 10:46 AM

Hi Rash,

I have Stuart Taylor bodywork on my race car. Its not a patch on our bodywork. If you want a direct comparison between, GTS, ST and Luego bodywork i welcome any visitors to my workshop/showroom, who can see all three cars lined up side by side and you can make your own judgement.

Neds bodywork is Locost lowline stuff as moulded originally by the people who supply most of my competitors, and hence why we strongly believe the GTS bodywork is far superior.

Rash, you never spoke to me regarding the fit of the bodywork. The fit is rated by all the magazines that saw it at Detling as by far and way better than even more expensive kits. Each shut line is perfectly matched to its mating partner. If you have issues on your car then talk to me because it certainly isn't anything to do with the bodywork.

The issue you spopke to me about was delivery and at that time the suppliers were dreadful, we now use a different supplier, Triton, who are turning round bespoke orders in around 2 weeks.


If you have issues regarding fitting of it to the chassis then i can send pictures and details, of my car on which you will find the fit is perfect and finish is perfect, and this was all acheived without any fettling.

Find below a pic of how the bonnet and scuttle fit perfectly.

[Edited on 11/4/05 by dozracing] Rescued attachment body-fit.jpg
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clbarclay - 11/4/05 at 12:52 PM

Is the locost low line moulded like the rest of GTS fiberglass now?


ned - 11/4/05 at 12:53 PM

no, they are still seperate products with seperate qualities.

Ned.


locoboy - 11/4/05 at 01:04 PM

Must admit that looks absolutely bob on to me.

Is there a scuttle with a moulding to take a perspex aeroscreen? but tsill fits to the bonnet as well as that?


dozracing - 11/4/05 at 01:05 PM

The lowline stuff is the same old stuff everyone else is punting out, and its quality is not up to my standards and hence why we prefer to supply the new GTS bodywork.

We basically reserve the low line stuff for racers and people who want replacement components for bodywork supplied by other companies.

Neds a bit strange in the head in that he preferred the look of the low line stuff no matter how many times i told him the new stuff is night and day better quality than anything else. But then Neds a bit strange in the head full stop, fox hunting with a 205 for example.

We don't do a perspex screen fitting type scuttle, because we are now supplying our own double bubble aeroscreen, nicknamed the "bra", which is moulded to fit the scuttle and just requires 4 fixings to hold it on, or glue if you prefer.

Kind regards,

Darren

[Edited on 11/4/05 by dozracing]


ned - 11/4/05 at 01:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dozracing
Neds a bit strange in the head in that he preferred the look of the low line stuff no matter how many times i told him the new stuff is night and day better quality than anything else. But then Neds a bit strange in the head full stop, fox hunting with a 205 for example.


I understand/know that the quality is better on the newer gts bodywork darren, but i still prefer the 'look' of the lowline stuff personally. Yours at the time seemed the cheapest to source compared to others, hence I bought it from you.

Ned.


dozracing - 11/4/05 at 02:24 PM

I know Ned, just pulling your leg.........

Testing out attaching an Excel file of price comparisons, ignore it if it doesn't work...

Kind regards,

Darren


ned - 11/4/05 at 03:01 PM

works here darren

but it's a close run thing on those back panels

[Edited on 11/4/05 by ned]


Mark18 - 11/4/05 at 03:23 PM

I agree with ned about the lowline stuff looking better .

Mark


Triton - 11/4/05 at 03:56 PM

You can't please all the people all the time...............so i just please myself


ned - 11/4/05 at 03:59 PM

hows yer father


flak monkey - 11/4/05 at 04:01 PM

I too thought the lowline looked better.

But having seen the GTS bodywork at Stoneleigh last year (i assume it was the new bodywork anyway) I can tell you that it looks good, and the quality is excellent as well.

I havent decided on the lowline or the GTS bodywork yet, but i may well go for the GTS stuff because of the quality. (I plan on chpping the sump and oil filler on my engine so either should fit)

David


Triton - 11/4/05 at 04:05 PM

Sticky


Triton - 11/4/05 at 04:07 PM

Yep it was the new style body work shown at "Stoneme how much for a stand" last year


Triton - 11/4/05 at 04:10 PM

The reason it all fits together is because it was made as one piece then divided up to create nose/scuttle and bonnet.....and nowt to do with blue smarties or any other strange goings on


dozracing - 11/4/05 at 04:48 PM

I think you should see it in black. The red was not a good colour, the black just looks totally awesome.


flak monkey - 11/4/05 at 04:50 PM

When I get that far I was thinking of going for black bodywork. I have always thought they look great in black, I dont know why... only problem is with other people seeing you coming, unless you drive with your lights on all the time I guess...

David


stevebubs - 11/4/05 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
When I get that far I was thinking of going for black bodywork. I have always thought they look great in black, I dont know why... only problem is with other people seeing you coming, unless you drive with your lights on all the time I guess...

David


In my experience, green is the worst colour for people to see you - especially in towns.

I've only had 2 accidents in the last 10 years.

One on my green ZX7R - woman pulled out infront of me
One in my green omega (last week) - guy just drove straight into the side of me as I was going along a main road.

Must mistake them for bushes, I guess...


Triton - 11/4/05 at 05:14 PM

Loud pipes save lives as the old saying goes


ned - 11/4/05 at 05:19 PM

in that case, mines a sawn off!


Triton - 11/4/05 at 05:24 PM

Only works if the prick about to pull out in front of you aint got his stereo blasting.....Knee into door then elbow whacking window gutter as you sail over the front hurts a bit.....dickwad said i never heard or saw you!!!....umm a road going MX bike and he never heard me


dozracing - 11/4/05 at 05:54 PM

Easy Tiger.............

Cyclists............ Bar-stewards, all deserve to die horrible deaths under lorries............ Well not all but certainly the one who dented my bonnet as he went flying over it at Guildford train station. British transport policeman asked me nicely to stop punching him and let him get up.

I'll get him properly next time.


Triton - 11/4/05 at 06:00 PM

Kamikaze 4x4 drivers up this way all driving with their head up their arse and wearing ties!!!!! Ties are for weddings and funerals


Peteff - 11/4/05 at 06:37 PM

No, ties are for stranglings . The most pointless item of clothing ever devised by man.


rash - 11/4/05 at 08:14 PM

with the bodywork off the car it still does not marry up anything like your picture so its not the car at fault personally i think the bodywork i recieved was not up to standard regardless of early problems with the supplier your attitude at the show when i spoke to you was sh*t for someome running a company you certainly didnt seem interested in my complaint i maybe didnt shout loud enough though i guess?


Triton - 11/4/05 at 09:12 PM

Rash,
Sounds to me like you have the older Locost body work? Can you post up a picture?

Mark


MikeR - 11/4/05 at 10:13 PM

just to change the subject a little ......... i prefer the low line body work as well. Cause of that i'm going to end up going with Stuart Taylor - he's local so if i have problems its easier to take back. Shame as I really would have liked to have delt with you darren. Maybe i'll change my mind after stoneleigh


stevebubs - 11/4/05 at 10:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Triton
Loud pipes save lives as the old saying goes


Trust me...the ZXR pipe was...how do you say... "fruity" ?


dozracing - 12/4/05 at 04:57 AM

Rash post a picture.

Its not possible for the new stuff not to line up properly, because everything has moulded returns that set its position. I don't understand how it can't be right.

You have never spoke to me about the fit of the bodywork. My attitude at that time with regards to delivery was one of utter frustration and i couldn't do anything more for you, for which i apologise. Its a different situation now, and if there is a problem and its new bodywork, i will be surprised and i will get it sorted. I honestly don't understand how it can't fit together properly.

I have sold probably 50+ sets of that bodywork in the past year and no one has reported any problems with fitting it or quality issues with regards to its final fit.

If you want to use ST stuff then you miss out on lots of features of the new bodywork, one of which is the benefit of not having to cut holes in it or stick bumps everywhere for clearance. Come and see the difference in the flesh as it were i have three cars for direct comparison.

Kind regards,

Darren


rash - 12/4/05 at 05:14 AM

i will take a pic this weekend it was the tall bodywork that was ordered but i am not convinced that is what i got and its not a matched set


MikeR - 12/4/05 at 12:12 PM

I hope i don't have to cut holes etc for the ST bodywork - i've measured a friends set and everything should fit on my xlfow engined car with westfield engine mounts.

But i will definately take you up on your offer at stoneleigh before i buy any bodywork.

Just read one of Neds posts. Darren, could you confirm the height of your bodywork above the top chassis rail at the nose and scuttle? If it is only 3/4" taller than the ST stuff ...... well ST worked out at about 16cm which is very similar to Caterham (non SV).

[Edited on 12/4/05 by MikeR]


rash - 12/4/05 at 05:46 PM

with the scuttle set level with the nosecone and the bonnet in place the bottom of the bonnet is about 20mm or so below the level of the nosecone i dont think this is a matched set made in one piece surely the nose cone is to be mouted flat and not running up hill towards the scuttle i will be pleased of any advice you have darren to correct this matter thanx rash Rescued attachment not true.JPG
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rash - 12/4/05 at 05:47 PM

all set level as you can see by the level it is difficult to see the bubble but it is true Rescued attachment set level.JPG
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dozracing - 12/4/05 at 06:24 PM

Well that answers that question easily. Bl**dy idiot has supplied the wrong nose cone.

Easy fix, Mark, can we make a black nose asap to replace this.

Kind regards,

Darren


rash - 12/4/05 at 07:05 PM

thanks for your reply darren pleased its sorted. what do you want me to do with the old nosecone once the new one arrives?


Triton - 12/4/05 at 08:04 PM

For a tube full of blue smarties i am sure i can be persuaded.......Tis a Locost nosecone with new bonnet and scuttle from what i can make out in the picture......


MikeR - 12/4/05 at 08:16 PM

ooh, ooh, oooh......

(i'm getting excited)

Can someone please (pretty please) confirm the height of the nose in the middle of the car to the top of the chassis rail.

i.e. put the nose on the edge of the table and then measure up to the top of the nose where the bonnet joins it.....

Darren - you may yet get my order


billy - 12/4/05 at 08:57 PM

Mmmmmmmmmm makes me laff this dos


MikeR - 12/4/05 at 08:59 PM

why billy?

(never been keen on being laughed at if i don't understand why)


phelpsa - 12/4/05 at 09:14 PM

I think he's just read the whole thread about the wrong nosecone being supplied.

Adam


dozracing - 15/4/05 at 10:00 AM

Rash,

Are you going to Stoneliegh? If so we will take the proper nose to swap if you like.

Kind regards,

Darren


rash - 16/4/05 at 04:09 PM

will see you on monday at stoneliegh
cheers

[Edited on 16/4/05 by rash]