Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 16/10/07 at 09:19 AM |
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Good News Boys!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7045550.stm
Print this off and stick it to the fridge!! 
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Simon
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 10:31 PM |
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I'm more relieved about this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7047244.stm
ATB
Simon
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Peteff
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| posted on 17/10/07 at 10:49 PM |
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Not to be taken seriously
It's not their fault they're fat, it's their environment ? I don't think so. There are a lot of these with disabled stickers
on their 4x4 in the disabled spaces outside our local shop whose only disability seems to be that they can't say when they need to stop eating.
They ought to make food more expensive to stop them I think or put them in a special fat people prison where the bars are a set distance apart, say 2
feet so they can only get out when they get down to a certain waist size. Let's see you rattle your tin cup across them bars fatty. Or put
turnstiles on the food shop doors so they can't get in till they fit through
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 12:28 AM |
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That fat thing gets on my goat. If people can't control themselves then they deserve to get fat. Meanwhile those of us with some restraint have
to listen to politicians blabbering on about stupid ideas like making high calorie food more expensive. What is this country coming to?!
</rant>
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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smart51
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 07:11 AM |
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I think you get the wrong end of the fat story. What they're saying is that it is a spieces problem not an individual's problem. Modern
western lifestyles don't suit human beings. The inevitable result is that you'll get fat unless you fight it by deliberately denying
yourself the kind of food the body craves and unless you deliberatly do the kind of excersise that we naturally shy away from.
Of course individuals are responsible for their own diet but it is an up hill battle against ourselves from the very start.
I like the first story though.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 10:48 AM |
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I realise they're saying it's a problem for us as a species but it still comes down to individual responsibility.
Nowadays we have immense choice when it comes to food, transport etc - that's just a natural consequence of a ever-developing society. If people
always take the "easy route" by eating fast food and doing no exercise then of course they're going to get fat. But society
isn't forcing them to make those choices. If individuals can't take responsibility for themselves then what's the answer? A complete
nanny state where high-calorie foods are banned and we're forced to walk everywhere?
Staying fit and healthy is no harder than it has been throughout the history of humanity, it's just that nowadays we have easier options to
"tempt" us away from that sort of lifestyle.
I just don't like the idea that I'm going to be punished, in the form of higher taxes on certains foods and so on, just because other
people are too weak-willed to look after themselves.
Anyway enough ranting, I agree - the first story was great
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 11:06 AM |
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This country has turned into an absolute joke!! Its getting to the stage where nothing is the individuals fault any more. Criminals will be using it
as a defence soon to get away with murder (literally!!) in that its "the State's fault". Then again, maybe the politicians would
quite like everything to be "the State's fault" as it will give them the excuse to take greater and greater control of
everyone's lives!!
Anyway, i'm sitting here this morning seriously researching emigrating to New Zealand having pretty much had enough of "Ripoff
Britain". Anyone know if kitcars can be registered over there??
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iank
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 11:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
Anyway, i'm sitting here this morning seriously researching emigrating to New Zealand having pretty much had enough of "Ripoff
Britain". Anyone know if kitcars can be registered over there??
http://www.constructorscarclub.org.nz/
Also have a chat with 'Ratman' builder of the roadrat
http://www.geocities.com/roadratccc/
--
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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smart51
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 11:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scoobyis2cool
Staying fit and healthy is no harder than it has been throughout the history of humanity
I come from the grey rainy north where even as late as the 50s there were families whose working wages were so low that they had to choose between
food and clothes. Just living life involved lots of walking, hard phisical work and cold housing. It was easy not to eat too much food or do too
little excercise. There was no choice.
Kids go to school by car and each pizza anf chips for lunch and McDonalds and chips for dinner then sit infront of the telly all evening in a warn
cozy house. Decades ago people couldn't afford that choice.
But I agree that individuals do have a choice and are responsible for their own health and lifstyle. The report may be true but badly reported.
Never the less, there is a problem which does need to be tackled. If people won't do it themselves, perhaps government has to or else half the
country will be obese before too long.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 11:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
http://www.constructorscarclub.org.nz/
Also have a chat with 'Ratman' builder of the roadrat
http://www.geocities.com/roadratccc/
Excellent - just had a look through those links and looks a fairly decent kitcar scene over there. Looks like it takes up to a year to sort out
emigration anyway and i want to save for a while after finishing the Tiger so plenty of time yet.
MNR have an Australian agent dont they - looks a good excuse to build one of them next anyway!!
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DarrenW
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 11:39 AM |
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Has anyone done a trial on 2 people. maybe one skinny and another over weight. Feed them both exactly the same food, same life style, same exercise
etc etc and see what the effect is over time. Im sure a lower calorie diet with lots of exercise will result in 2 skinny people. However reverse this
and it would be interesting to see if they both retained their figure?
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 12:25 PM |
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there's so many variables between people that not many conclusions could be drawn except for those individuals tested. A low calorie diet with
loads of exercise could easily end up with an ill person - not just a skinny one
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 01:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Kids go to school by car and each pizza anf chips for lunch and McDonalds and chips for dinner then sit infront of the telly all evening in a warn
cozy house.
I agree, they do, but they don't have to - that's where the idea of taking responsibility comes in. Education is the way forward, not
governmental policies and yet more taxes. There's no way the government can force people into living a healthy lifestyle without taking away
those choices, which surely is a step backwards for society.
@DarrenW - while it's true that people do have varied metabolisms and so on, they're remarkably similar in most respects. It's very
rare that you'll find a thin person who eats 5,000 calories daily from processed foods, or a fat person who eats a calorie-controlled diet and
exercises regularly. On the whole, diet and exercise control our level of health and fitness, it's as simple as that. But a lot of people
don't want to put in the hard work and choose instead to carry on their unhealthy lifestyle and wait for the government to do something about
it.
Pete
[Edited on 18/10/07 by scoobyis2cool]
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 01:21 PM |
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It's all about eating a balanced diet.
For me, that's a pint in one hand and a big pie in the other.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 01:48 PM |
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Further fuel for thought
Lancashire fire department add their take on the subject.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Alex B
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| posted on 18/10/07 at 05:13 PM |
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Hey.....Lay off fat people. I hang out with them to look skinny
Alex
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RK
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| posted on 19/10/07 at 10:44 PM |
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It's all the fault of the car. If people walked anymore, there wouldn't be a problem. You can eat like an idiot and if you're active
enough, you won't gain a pound. I've done informal observations, and found small town people in Canada are fatter because they depend on
the car to get around, whereas in the city they can walk to the store, or take a bus that comes more often than twice a day.
I gained at least 15 pounds when I moved from downtown Vancouver to the outskirts of Ottawa (a move of several thousand km I don't recommend,
for all sorts of reasons - I won't discuss the winter here), because I no longer felt like walking the 2 km to the store.
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smart51
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| posted on 20/10/07 at 07:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
It's all the fault of the car. If people walked anymore, there wouldn't be a problem.
Perhaps not a popular forum for anti car sentement but maybe you're right. I was quite thin until I bought my first car at age 24. Until then
I'd walked or cycled everywhere, including 2 oe 3 miles each way to university. Now I don't.
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scoobyis2cool
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| posted on 20/10/07 at 10:16 AM |
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It still isn't the car's fault though - you don't HAVE to drive!
Pete
It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care...
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TGR-ECOSSE
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| posted on 20/10/07 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7045550.stm
Print this off and stick it to the fridge!!
Back to the original post !!!! I need more help than that !!! I have 2 kids and have been "done" 
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