steve_gus
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| posted on 5/11/05 at 09:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
surely not wrist ache steve?!  
this thread is so funny  particularly derfs comments on the english
of course not, I thought he might be into quilts - how dare you say such things about my mate Cita!
Yeah - liked Derf and gazza's quips too.... btw - i was on holiday, just one block down from where Grant picked that tart up on the exact same
day. Hollywood bolevard is quite a dive as you get further away from the movie star residences.
atb
steve
[Edited on 5/11/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 5/11/05 at 09:51 PM |
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Er..Derf and Cita,
You guys wouldn't be related would you?
And you share the same family/surname of Pratt?
Straight over their heads...Whoooosh.
[Edited on 5/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
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derf
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 05:18 AM |
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My family came from the country that almost kicked your ass in WW2 if my other country hadn't saved you. I also have some family in the country
athat didn't do a thing.
(Sweden, Germany, and the good ol' US of A)
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Cita
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 06:25 AM |
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Cita
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 06:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Er..Derf and Cita,
You guys wouldn't be related would you?
And you share the same family/surname of Pratt
[Edited on 5/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
We must assume that Syd Bridge is your real name then hé.
Be careful Syd cause when Rorty comes along you might be gone again for a couple of months again
Cheers Cita!
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steve_gus
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 11:43 AM |
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Cita is your real name? It can only just be a part of it. So no better than a nickname then.....
There are very few on here that use their real name and choose instead to have an alter ego.
atb
steve
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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steve_gus
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 11:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by derf
My family came from the country that almost kicked your ass in WW2 if my other country hadn't saved you. I also have some family in the country
athat didn't do a thing.
(Sweden, Germany, and the good ol' US of A)
Do bear in mind tho that the UK stood alone for three years against the Germans before the USA helped out.
How long did Belgium last, exactly. Oh yeah, three weeks.....
quote....................
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Operation "Gelb": German troops invade the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg.
Holland and Belgium
On 10 May 1940 the Germans unleashed a series of devastating and audacious series of operations against neutral Holland and Belgium. Airborne units
supported by the Luftwaffe seized key positions in the Netherlands well in advance of the main columns. Unable to match the force and ingenuity of the
invaders, and disconcerted by air raids on civilian targets, the Dutch army capitulated on 15 May. In Belgium a memorable German airborne assault took
place on the key fortress of Eban Emael. Although the Belgian army fought for three weeks against overwhelming odds, at midnight on 27 May it
surrendered.
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war and death dont deserve a series of smiling faces, Cita, perhaps
would have been better.
atb
steve
PS
Belgian WW1 war medal
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Belgium-Superb-Belgian-World-War-1-Victory-Medal_W0QQitemZ6573707223QQcategoryZ13975QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
four hours to go, and only $9.99 no bids
[Edited on 6/11/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 01:43 PM |
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Cita,
Yes, my real name is Bridge, and the Syd is a nickname which some of the locals thought to be humourous, and it stuck.
As for Rorty, he would be the first to admit that 'once a paddy, always a paddy'. ( )
Why I had a break? Not what Rorty said, but more the lack of support from some forum members who know me personally, have been in my home, and in my
workshop. I now know my friends, and those who think I can be of benefit to them.
You never said if your real name is Pratt?
And Derf, you anywhere near Toms River? I'll be over there in the new year.
Syd.
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Cita
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 02:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Syd Bridge
Cita,
Yes, my real name is Bridge, and the Syd is a nickname which some of the locals thought to be humourous, and it stuck.
As for Rorty, he would be the first to admit that 'once a paddy, always a paddy'. ( )
Why I had a break? Not what Rorty said, but more the lack of support from some forum members who know me personally, have been in my home, and in my
workshop. I now know my friends, and those who think I can be of benefit to them.
You never said if your real name is Pratt?
And Derf, you anywhere near Toms River? I'll be over there in the new year.
Syd.
No my real name is not Pratt
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derf
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 05:04 PM |
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Ha, my real name is close to what i use, derf=Fred
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quattromike
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 08:02 PM |
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Would I not be right in saying the the nazi's were on the retreat before the great US of A joined in with the brits?
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 08:07 PM |
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Don't mention the war !
It's o.k., I think I got away with it.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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JoelP
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| posted on 6/11/05 at 09:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by quattromike
Would I not be right in saying the the nazi's were on the retreat before the great US of A joined in with the brits?
not as i have heard it, though shamefully i've never bothered researching it too much. As i believe, we would've been lost without both
military support and supplies.
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derf
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 12:10 AM |
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No the nazis were starting to show their weaknesses, but by no means were they retreating when we joined, in fact in most places in western europe
they were increasing their fortifications, and digging in, in anticipation of an allied invasion. Their lines were getting thin, and they were using
more supplies and men on the eastern front, but the ruskies would not have been able to do much without the gremans losing the beaches at normandy,
and the subsequent and massive influx of English and American troops that were crossing the channel. Once we (US & UK) had a good foothold in
france, we basically fanned out fighting the germans to the west and north. There was a bunch of fighting all over the place, lots of stuff was blown
up, bombs were droped, and then we got to berlin and Hitler put a bullet in his head.
And that is WW2 acording to me...
Incidently I'm waiting to find out if I get to jump next year for the aniversary of the D-day invasion. If you didn't know I'm in
the US Army, and I jump from planes for a living.
[Edited on 7/11/05 by derf]
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smart51
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 11:34 AM |
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The British and their allies were also fighting the Japnese in the pacific. British interests in India, hong kong, australia, the philipenes etc.
There was a plan to pull out of asia and concentrate on Europe is the Americans didn't join in. Something that the Australians were not to
happy with once they heard.
There is a point of view that because the British and Americans were fighting in each other's wars that they could each have won their own half
of the war on their own. Various Americans have told me that we would have lost without them but they would have won without us.
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andkilde
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 03:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Various Americans have told me that we would have lost without them but they would have won without us.
I hear that Private Ryan bloke was quite a scrapper...
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quattromike
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 04:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
The British and their allies were also fighting the Japnese
Right enough my grandfather who was in the gordon highlanders fought on the front line against the japs and he used to tell me about going across
burma at the widest point on a motor bike" BSA it was" he said.
Mike
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Syd Bridge
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 05:32 PM |
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Edited out.
Total waste of time.
USA came to europe on a purely monetary basis. Without them it just would have taken a lot longer.
[Edited on 8/11/05 by Syd Bridge]
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gazza285
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 06:35 PM |
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Well said that man.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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Spyderman
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| posted on 7/11/05 at 06:56 PM |
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Syd that isn't necessarily true!
Yes a great deal of credit was taken away from those that did the deed!
Yes the commonwealth were in all battle arenas, and not just the Americans!
Yes the British with the aid of it's allies had stopped the advance of the Germans, except on the Russian front!
Yes it is very annoying when one ally joins the party late and it "seems" they are hogging all the limelight!
Yes we acheived many other things, but at what cost?
The facts are that without American help the war would have gone on for a great deal longer and it is not guaranteed that the result would have been
the same.
For years before they joined into the war the Americans had been supplying us with armaments on a lease or return basis. Meaning that what we lost
were not paid for. So without their help who could say what the outcome would have been?
It would be equally wrong to say from either side that they alone won the war.
There are ignorants and bigots all over the world.
Whatever happens we will disagree about some things.
Let's just be greatful we are in a position to be able to express our ignorance!
We share a language with North America, but our cultures are different.
No offence intended to any!
[Edited on 7/11/05 by Spyderman]
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MikeP
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 01:04 PM |
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Wow, WWII has sure changed since I was a kid. England stood alone against Germany? Not in our history books.
I must have misunderstood what happened at Dunkirk - despite that retreat, Britian would have re-invaded Europe on it's own? If the Germans had
succeeded against the Soviets (who held out partly thanks to the US aid), how much armor would Britian have been facing when it was ready?
This is the wrong time of year to be ungrateful for anyone's contribution to that war.
I'm not sure how my penis size got into this derf, but let me remind you Canada is a cold country which can cause considerable shrinkage. I
think you're still bitter over your failed war of 1812, you imperialist dog!
As to the America view of England, Archie Bunker summed it up best many years ago  !
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derf
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 02:10 PM |
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I just wanted to let the world know that my penis is larger than any canadians, probably due to the cold and the shrinkage effect. I got balls of
steel buddy.
As far as WW2 I think we can all agree that without US help you Brits couldnt have won. Yes in the Pacific there were lots of countries fighting,
together, and we all kicked ass.
If you want to talk about a good war lets talk about the US revolution, We kicked ass, big time. A few "colonists" kicked a major world
power to the floor and told them to go home. Who'd a thunk that could have happened.
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Benzine
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 03:00 PM |
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Let's not bicker and argue about who killed who...
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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smart51
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 03:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeP
Wow, WWII has sure changed since I was a kid. England stood alone against Germany? Not in our history books.
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Your Canadian history books are right, but I don't think that anyone here said that England stood alone. Or even Britain. I believe that the
gist of this thread is that America didn't do it all on their own.
The final defeat of the Germans was due to the D-day landings - 1 Canadian, 1 Commonwealth, 1 American and 2 British landings plus the Russian attack
on the Eastern Front. You were there too. Other than that, the Battle of Britain and the battle of the Atlantic were key moments - the USA were not
involved in either, other than to sell arms.
I fully acknowlede that the British would have had a harder time without the help of the many commonwealth nations but I still stand by my arguement
that had the Americans not entered the war, then the British fall back plan to pull troops out of Asia would have made up the numbers and more
besides.
I always find the arguement "who won the war" a little saddening as the truth, from where I stand, is that everyone lost really.
the only good things salvaged from WWII were that the UK, Japan and Germany were forced to rebuild themselves into the modern nations that they are
today. Secondly that western Europe does seemed to have stopped the long series of wars that have filled all our history.
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derf
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| posted on 8/11/05 at 07:25 PM |
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Ok I insulted England again with my comment about the revolutionary war (not sure what name you use for it), anyone want to move to that war now?
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