thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 05:43 PM |
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car trailer parking bylaws?
I have a car trailer for transporting the track car to and from the circuits - just the trailer, the car is parked in the garage.
I've just had a neighbour round complaining it's spoiling their view because we park it on our side garden.
The view from their front window is the side of our house anyway, and we have a strip of grass where I park the trailer when not in use.
He's claiming it's against the local by-laws (Gloucestershire) to park a trailer on what is our garden.
Does anyone know if this is true? I'm googling and not a lot is coming up...
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karlak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 05:54 PM |
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Paint it Dayglo Pink 
I could understand high sided trailers or large vans, but not a transport type trailer.
Best contact the local council tomorrow to get the true situation.
MK Indy - 2litre Duratec - Omex 600 - Jenvey throttle bodies - ETB DigiDash2
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steve m
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 05:55 PM |
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Put some plant pots on it, and call it a "garden feature"
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mark chandler
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 05:59 PM |
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On new builds for many years some developers used to include a clause about caravans and trailers not being allowed, these usually last no more than
10 years.
I do not know of any bye laws, even if such a restriction existed who would enforce it if you own the house.
Regards Mark
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NeilP
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:00 PM |
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The number for the planning department of your council will be in the yellow pages - give them a call and they'll be able to tell you exactly
what is and isn't in force. Strangly enoughly, local by-laws (which can be down to parish council level) can apply to very small, strange
things. In my road we're not allowed to have the drop kerbbed entrance to our driveways any wider than originally built - 100 yards up the same
road but different parish, no problem...
If you pay peanuts...
Mentale, yar? Yar, mentale!
Drive it like you stole it!
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
On new builds for many years some developers used to include a clause about caravans and trailers not being allowed, these usually last no more than
10 years.
I do not know of any bye laws, even if such a restriction existed who would enforce it if you own the house.
Regards Mark
It is indeed a new build, and I've just dug out the deeds etc.
There is a clause wheis states:
quote:
Now within a period of five years from the date hereto without the previous consent in writing of the Transferor to erect upon the property any
buildings or to alter any dwelling and/or garage erected upon the Property at the date of this Transfer or allow to be or remain on any part of it any
temporary building or structure or any hut shed caravan boat or any showboards or hoardings or any advertising station.
It's not a hut, shed, caravan or boat now is it...
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:07 PM |
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You know what really pissed me off about it all..?
We've just got home from a weekend away collecting the chassis for the Exocet and was 1/2 way through unloading it when he wandered over.
Was on a massive high and that's disappeared now.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:13 PM |
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IIRC that convernant is only enforcable by the developer too. THey only put them in so that their developements stay looking nice for a few years
afterwards so they can send prospective customers of their new homes round to look at the standard of their older developments. So the chances of them
caring is slim to none.
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Wadders
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:14 PM |
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I'm no lawyer, but reading that clause it seems to be aimed at tall things, not car trailers......tell him to get stuffed
Al.
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clairetoo
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by thefreak
You know what really pissed me off about it all..?
We've just got home from a weekend away collecting the chassis for the Exocet and was 1/2 way through unloading it when he wandered over.
Was on a massive high and that's disappeared now.
So to cheer yourself up , print it off , then go round and knock on his door......when it opens , staple it to his forehead 
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:19 PM |
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Ok, here's an interesting counter argument.
He will have in his deeds stated 1 garage and 1 parking space (ours says 2 garages and 2 parking spaces).
Last year he moved his side garden fence back and tarmaced part of it to give him a second parking space. Now as the side of our house looks over the
front of their property when we look out of out kitchen window, all we see is his car. Whereas before it was a garden and fence....?
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steve m
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:22 PM |
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Why not buy some black polythene, cover the trailer, and support the edges and fill it with water, its a pond!
I had some plastic ducks floating on my garage roof fo a while
hahaha
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daviep
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:33 PM |
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Playing devil's advocate: Is your trailer quite tidy or is it a mess?
Personally it wouldn't bother me but if for example I was thinking about or trying to sell my house then I might be viewing things
differently.
Pity the guy handled his complaint so badly.
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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mark chandler
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:35 PM |
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Sounds like he is a bit of an arse, however as a direct neighbour you need to try and not let it escalate  I made my trailer no larger than the
little car with under wheels so I could leave the car on it in the garage, makes it much easier to work on the car as well due to a more useful
height.
Is there any chance you could alter the suspension and fit 10" H/D wheels and tyres underneath, I run 195 / 55 R10C tyres on mine, nice and
small good for 750kg.
It does free up a lot of space.
Regards Mark
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:36 PM |
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It's a black twin axle. It's all black, not rusty or tatty.
It has a nice yellow wheel clamp on it too.
Here's a pic of the house layout:
We're plot 4, they're plot 5.
The red square next to our house is where I park the trailer (which is lower than the railed fence around the front of the property)
the red square next to plot 5 is where he's tarmacced and now parks his car.
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jacko
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:37 PM |
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Put a 6ft fence up And tell him to mind his own business
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
Sounds like he is a bit of an arse, however as a direct neighbour you need to try and not let it escalate I made my trailer no larger than the
little car with under wheels so I could leave the car on it in the garage, makes it much easier to work on the car as well due to a more useful
height.
Is there any chance you could alter the suspension and fit 10" H/D wheels and tyres underneath, I run 195 / 55 R10C tyres on mine, nice and
small good for 750kg.
It does free up a lot of space.
Regards Mark
They already bitched when the MX5 shell was on there for a week while we were away, but anyway that's a whole different story.
The Exocet's regulation weight is 860kg, so that wouldn't work, plus the double garage is now being taken up with the new build.
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
Put a 6ft fence up And tell him to mind his own business
I asked him if he'd prefer to see that  I've looked through the deeds and by the looks of it we cant erect any fences other than
what's already there for 5 years, as out plan was to extend the railings from the front of the house to the side to box it in. They're
3-4ft high.
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Wheels244
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 06:46 PM |
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It's your corner of England - do with it as you wish - you pay for it !
I had a similar experience with one of my neighbours, she started the conversation off with '' I don't want to be nasty neighbour -
but.......''
and off she goes telling me my off road Discovery wasn't very nice to look at - whilst it's parked on my drive !!
I told her beauty is in the eye of the beholder and it would be staying there - forever
I did actually move it eventually and replaced it with an off road prepped Defender which lives in the same spot
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morcus
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:09 PM |
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Hasyour neighbour told the council he's added an extra parking space? If not he's commiting tax fraud as they can alter your council tax
based on gaining or losing parking spaces.
If it were me I'd check it was all above board, if it is then just ignor him.
To the one above, you should have said that you didn't like the look of what was in her drive, just to see the look on her face.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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thefreak
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:17 PM |
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Interesting.... I'll make some covert enquiries Thank you for that little gem
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mark chandler
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:23 PM |
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If the developer gets involved then he shots himself!
Your house is twice as big, he is not even next door but opposite, put it down to penis envy and ignore or you could get some reed Screening, £10 for
4m x 1m and cable tie to your fence
Also hides your stuff from other eyes so maybe not a bad idea anyway.
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:26 PM |
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Well, the trailer isn't mentioned in the deeds at all, so I would tell him to rev up and that you await his solicitors letter.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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daviep
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:33 PM |
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As per Mark C's comments I would try not to start a war with your neighbour, would it be possible to speak with the guy and ask specifically
what the problem is and see if he has any constructive suggestions to resolve the situation.
If you get into a tit for tat complaint then it may possibly cause more problems in the future with regards to noise complaints and parking and the
like, our preferred hobbies make us vulnerable to complaints.
In the event of things going sour which side will your immediate neighbours take?
Hope it doesn't sound like I'm having a go, I'd be hacked off if my neighbours stuck their nose in, just wouldn't like to see
you make things worse before trying to make them better.
Cheers
Davie
“A truly great library contains something in it to offend everyone.”
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motorcycle_mayhem
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| posted on 15/1/12 at 07:38 PM |
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I sincerely hope this is the start, extent and end of your trouble and communication with the neighbour.
The neighbour won't be your problem, yes, you can (as others have suggested) safely ignore the neighbour. It's what the neighbour does
that will be your problem, particularly if the neighbour contacts the council.
Don't believe that because you own the house, or it's your bit of England, or any feelings you may have - regardless of how you perceive
the fair world to be. My experience is that it's not fair.
If you're in breach of any regulation, your neighbour's complaint to the council will reap things that you won't believe. If
you've got a council full of bored, under utilised Environmental Health officers, you really will have problems.
If your neighbour escalates (complaints over *noise* *pollution* *amenity*) things with council, you *must* start countering with *harrassment*
*privacy*. If your neighbour starts overtly taking pictures, recordings, etc. (if they're a near-death pensioner with no life it's really
overt).
Start building the kit car, you'll be running a business. If the complaints get to this stage, it means that the Environmental complaints have
failed (noise, amenity...)
If the neighbour is particularly bad, you'll start getting your tyres slashed and headlights broken. You'll need video cameras, good
qaulity images for a true ID. If there's not enough detail to get an ID image, you won't get any Police help.
YES, I've been in a very dark place. I hope to God that this isn't the start of a life-destroying period for you. If it is though, I have
plenty of empathy, I've been there.
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