Snuggs
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 10:23 AM |
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EU - Stay in or Get out
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 10:25 AM |
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I reckon we should jump in with both feet and start throwing our weight around! 
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smart51
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 12:14 PM |
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The EU is like any large group of people - it does some good things and some bad things. In a world of big and powerful economic countries (USA,
China, India before long) the UK alone would be a very small player. Strength in numbers. The EU is Britain's best hope of maintaining a voice
that will be heard.
David Jenkins is right. We should start throwing our weight around a bit. It surprises some but we do have a fair bit of weight in the EU.
We're the 3rd biggest country by population but have the 2nd biggest economy. Rather than moaning about the bits of the EU we don't like,
we should get stuck in and change what we can.
People who say we should leave and join NAFTA are living in cloud cuckoo land. The USA don't give a flying fortress about us and would
"poodle" us all day long if we joined.
Simple economics say that you stick with those who provide most of your trade - the EU. A survey of British industry was done a few years ago. It
said British trade with North America would be almost unaffected if we joined NAFTA or not. Why bother then?
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 12:31 PM |
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Never heard of Nafta, maybe we should be clear as to why we're having this poll huh?
From what I understand what we'd lose by not being in the EU is that you southerners can't pop over to France for a load of beer, we
can't just go over for a job and there'd be no argument about the Euro.
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scootz
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 01:34 PM |
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Having worked in a number of EU organizations, I've got to say that we Brits have a very different way of thinking to many of the larger EU
countries... particularly Germany, France and Italy. This three-way coalition would make it almost pointless for Britain to "throw it's
weight around" as they would close-ranks on us at every opportunity that suits them.
We do however seem to share a mindset with the Irish, Danes, Dutch, Swedes, Poles and Fins... a Northern-Alliance perhaps?
TBH though, I don't really know enough about economics to have a strong opinion either way as to whether it would be to our financial benefit to
be in / out of the EU. Will have to sit back and listen to the input from others!
It's Evolution Baby!
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coozer
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 02:50 PM |
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OUT, lets leave and get on with ourself's. Then we can become a nice rich place just like Switzerland!
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iank
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 02:53 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Never heard of Nafta
North American Free Trade Agreement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement
Having lived in Canada my understanding is it seems to be set up to allow America to stop you putting large duties on American products, while it puts
large duties on yours if some local business interest can persuade their government that you're taking jobs from Americans.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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RK
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 05:27 PM |
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NAFTA is a one way street, and it ain't coming our way. The US does what it wants, when it wants. They want our oil: they get it. They want our
water: they get it. They call everything a subsidy, yet don't charge income tax or corporate tax on a lot of people. How is it fair?
Fair (sic) is what you pay to get on a bus.
Jumping in with a dying economy and essentially dying country, is not smart at the moment.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 25/4/10 at 10:55 PM |
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Hmmmm well I did study Economics and Economic History......a very long time ago....
But .... we are now the second biggest contributor to the EU behind Germany...our 'contribution' for the year 2010/11 is a whopping
£6.4 billion ... 
As a nation in Europe, we don't have any sway at all.... 
I would rather the £6.4 billion was invested in trade and industry in the United Kingdom, and we took back our powers of sense and sensibility ....
This current 'set-up' makes no economic sense whatsoever. What exactly do we get for our £6.4 billion?
All above IMHO of course 
Fozzie 
Not sure how NATFA came into the equation from the original post, but IMHO just as bad an idea too!
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 26/4/10 at 06:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
Having lived in Canada my understanding is it seems to be set up to allow America to stop you putting large duties on American products, while it puts
large duties on yours if some local business interest can persuade their government that you're taking jobs from Americans.
I'm sure the World Trade Organisation have disallowed that. They've been having a problem with the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement
Act in that they're allowing their poker sites to be run in other countries, but no foreign ones can run there.
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gottabedone
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| posted on 28/4/10 at 04:28 PM |
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Surely now (very loosely of course!) it means that our laws mean nothing, our currency is worth nothing, as a country we now have next to no clout, we
have a spiralling debt with lessening income.
We own the international health service, a large Icelandic debt, an increasing debt to a "union" that only wants our money! - see comments
above
time to tell them to stick it and start putting our own house in order again
[Edited on 28/4/10 by gottabedone]
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Marcus
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| posted on 28/4/10 at 07:04 PM |
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NAFTA....ever watched Family Guy?
Clinton in bed with Lois...'Nother Afternoon Fu***** That Ass
Marcus
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Badger_McLetcher
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| posted on 28/4/10 at 09:44 PM |
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I say we either get stuck in or GTFO.
We are not now that strength which in old days moved earth and heaven...
As I said before, if we stay in we crack some heads. If we get out we have to be sanguine with the fact we will become less and less relevant in the
world, and all that entails.
As for the Americans, pfff.
If disfunction is a function, then I must be some kind of genius.
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RK
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| posted on 29/4/10 at 08:00 PM |
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Those of you a little older may remember this thing you had in school called "WORLD WAR I and II". That is what the EU is designed to
prevent ever happening again, and for that reason, I am not English, but I would be IN.
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