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David Jenkins - 26/6/09 at 08:44 PM

I'm getting annoyed... every paper, every radio channel, and every TV channel is saying "The whole world is mourning Michael Jackson".

We'll I'm not - I think that he was a creepy little pervert - and quite a few of the people I know think the same. Also, I'd guess that many people in quite a few countries have probably never heard of him, let alone care about him.

Trouble is, "quite a few people are mourning his death" doesn't make such a good headline, does it?


MautoK - 26/6/09 at 09:17 PM

Make that 'the whole world minus 2'


clairetoo - 26/6/09 at 09:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MautoK
Make that 'the whole world minus 2'

+1


Staple balls - 26/6/09 at 09:34 PM

+1

Couldn't care less.

Granted, he made 5 good songs, but basically, one less creepy paedo.


rusty nuts - 27/6/09 at 03:11 PM

At least my car is an MJ free zone, turned the radio off at work yesterday because I got fed up with him.


Steve G - 27/6/09 at 07:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by David JenkinsI think that he was a creepy little pervert - and quite a few of the people I know think the same.


You can add me to that group (although you dont know me so maybe you cant in the strictest sense). If it was anyone without the fame, fortune, and a stack of lawyers, I recon that particular creepy little pervert would have spent the last 15 years in jail.

Good riddance I say.

Off to find a music channel on tv without an MJ night while i get ready to go out now.


Dangle_kt - 28/6/09 at 06:19 PM

i dont mean to be awkward, but what is the evidence that he was a peado?

Yeah he was three sheets to the wind, but personally I'd hate to be accused unfairly of any sort of kiddie wrongdoing, as it seems impossible to prove yourself innocent.

im not a big fan, I liked a few of his songs and thought he WAS (in his day) a talentted bloke. I just get peaved that everyone jumps on the peado band wagon.


RoadkillUK - 28/6/09 at 06:24 PM

And while we're at it, stop picking on OJ Simpson


JoelP - 28/6/09 at 06:31 PM

Id agree, IMHO MJ wasnt a speado at all, just very odd, with no concept of everyone elses reality. If he had abused as consistantly as the media imply (ie kids always staying over etc) there would be far more complaints to the police about him. There were only 2 to my knowledge, and i wouldnt be suprised if the first was motivated by money and the second when the kids dad saw martin bashir making a tabloid-trash documentary.

MJ ftw.


JoelP - 28/6/09 at 06:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RoadkillUK
And while we're at it, stop picking on OJ Simpson


Except OJ wrote a book to brag about the murder he commited.


MikeRJ - 29/6/09 at 11:36 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
i dont mean to be awkward, but what is the evidence that he was a peado?

Yeah he was three sheets to the wind, but personally I'd hate to be accused unfairly of any sort of kiddie wrongdoing, as it seems impossible to prove yourself innocent.



The really damning behaviour for me was the fact that he paid off the Chandler familly with a huge sum of money after the first allegations rather than go to court and prove himself innocent, and the Chandler familly a bunch of money grabbing scum. Why would he do that if he had have nothing to hide?

Would you'd have been quite happy to let your kids (if you have any?) stay overnight with him?


Ivan - 29/6/09 at 12:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
i dont mean to be awkward, but what is the evidence that he was a peado?

Yeah he was three sheets to the wind, but personally I'd hate to be accused unfairly of any sort of kiddie wrongdoing, as it seems impossible to prove yourself innocent.



The really damning behaviour for me was the fact that he paid off the Chandler familly with a huge sum of money after the first allegations rather than go to court and prove himself innocent, and the Chandler familly a bunch of money grabbing scum. Why would he do that if he had have nothing to hide?

Would you'd have been quite happy to let your kids (if you have any?) stay overnight with him?


Paying off complainents in cases like this should not be viewed as guilt - cases like this are a lottery especialy is you are wierd and the kid is credible - only an idiot would put their lives in the hands of a jury and risk major jail time if they could afford to buy their way out of a trial even if they where innocent.

And no - I'm no MJ fan but I don't trust the law to always be right.


02GF74 - 29/6/09 at 12:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
i dont mean to be awkward, but what is the evidence that he was a peado?

Yeah he was three sheets to the wind, but personally I'd hate to be accused unfairly of any sort of kiddie wrongdoing, as it seems impossible to prove yourself innocent.



The really damning behaviour for me was the fact that he paid off the Chandler familly with a huge sum of money after the first allegations rather than go to court and prove himself innocent, and the Chandler familly a bunch of money grabbing scum. Why would he do that if he had have nothing to hide?

Would you'd have been quite happy to let your kids (if you have any?) stay overnight with him?


we'll never really know for sure as it was his word against the kids.

What would you do in his shoes? would you want to be up in court, pay for lawyers, have media in your face and generally have you name dragged through the gutter or pay off what is proably loose change to end it all?

On principle it would be better to go through the courts to prove your name but in practise it may be easier to end it with some cash.

If I recall, he was not convicted of any of this as it was hsown that the mother of one of the kids managed to get her son into MJ circle in order to make money.

MJ was very naive and foolish in doing what he did even if it was innocent.