907
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:06 PM |
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Vista
Hi All
I just wondered if Vista is still supported ?
I have an old, but hardly used Fujitsu Siemens Esprimo lap top running Vista Home Basic.
It connects via WiFi to my hub but that's where it stops. Won't connect to Google, won't check for updates,
won't even connect to Locostbuilders. 
I've just bought a borescope and I'd quite like to use the lap tops screen.
Not having too much luck getting it on my phone either.
Can I borrow somebodies ten year old son or daughter? I'm too old for all this modern technology.
Cheers
Paul G
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coozer
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:19 PM |
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Vista is not supported by Microsoft anymore, they are pouring everything into 10 and beyond....
Sounds like a hardware problem to me, have you check the wireless adapter in the lappy is mcompatible or set up correctly for your bang up to date
router??
Saying that I've just had a right clart on with a newish laptop trying to connect an obd thing that needed a com port. Found a software
solution for that one.
1972 V8 Jago
1980 Z750
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monkeyarms
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:27 PM |
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Vista still supported until 2017
https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/lifecycle/search/default.aspx?alpha=Windows%20Vista
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907
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
Vista is not supported by Microsoft anymore, they are pouring everything into 10 and beyond....
Sounds like a hardware problem to me, have you check the wireless adapter in the lappy is mcompatible or set up correctly for your bang up to date
router??
Saying that I've just had a right clart on with a newish laptop trying to connect an obd thing that needed a com port. Found a software
solution for that one.
Well I understand the first line of your reply….. then I need the ten year old. 
Cheers. Sounds like I must persevere with getting it running on the phone. (Xperion)
Paul G
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loggyboy
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:32 PM |
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Vista is no longer main stream supported, but neither is windows 7, which is still in mainstream use by most businesses.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/lifecycle
Mistral Motorsport
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SteveRST
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 03:50 PM |
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Whether Vista is supported or not is kinda irrelevant - it should still connect to the internet fine 
If it CAN establish a wifi conection to your router/hub, but CANNOT connect to the internet then it sounds like a DNS / IP problem.
This thread may help: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1692280/computer-connected-router-internet.html
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mcerd1
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 04:21 PM |
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As above - supported or not it should still work...
I've got machines running XP, 2000 and even 98SE - all of which connect to the internet no problem (well except for finding a browser program
for 98 that can deal with modern web pages of course...)
Fujitsu Siemens machines have never been very good in my experience - so hardware faults are extremely likely 
I vaguely remember issues with vista and WiFi (especially if its not up to date)
Can you connect it using a cable instead? (ie get windows and the drivers updated then try WiFi again)
[Edited on 7/1/2016 by mcerd1]
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907
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 06:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
As above - supported or not it should still work...
I've got machines running XP, 2000 and even 98SE - all of which connect to the internet no problem (well except for finding a browser program
for 98 that can deal with modern web pages of course...)
Fujitsu Siemens machines have never been very good in my experience - so hardware faults are extremely likely
I vaguely remember issues with vista and WiFi (especially if its not up to date)
Can you connect it using a cable instead? (ie get windows and the drivers updated then try WiFi again)
[Edited on 7/1/2016 by mcerd1]
The reason I described it in my first post as "old, but hardly used" is because it's the worlds slowest lap top.
It takes a good 7 or 8 minutes just to switch it on. The little blue ring revolving icon does more revs than my Lotus engine.
Several years ago I bought a Mini Mac and it just sits on the desk, 24hrs a day, doesn't update, doesn't crash, in fact the only
time I have to touch it is with internet (BT) probs or power cuts.
I'll have another go at the android phone and see if I can get the borescope going on that.
Thanks everyone.
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 06:31 PM |
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As I told you the other day Paul - put Linux Mint on it! You'll be shocked at how fast it runs in comparison.
You run a Mac as your main machine, so Linux won't be too painful a swap, especially for an occasional-use machine.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 08:08 PM |
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If it is connection to the hub and can reach local it sounds like the DNS or Gateway settings are wrong,
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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907
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 08:59 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
As I told you the other day Paul - put Linux Mint on it! You'll be shocked at how fast it runs in comparison.
You run a Mac as your main machine, so Linux won't be too painful a swap, especially for an occasional-use machine.
I've nothing to loose so I'd give it a go.
As I can't download it at the moment how about if I buy it on disc? The one thing the lappy does have is a disc drive.
I did a Google and found this.
http://www.thelinuxshop.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=286&gclid=Cj0KEQiAtri0BRDLoaCF95e7o_sBEiQA_pgRQxet9WQ-8-qA13D97_wV1Gr34EBhggq0X
oLrL7ha34waAs_U8P8HAQ
£6.49 isn't out of the way, assuming it's the right version.
One thing I do wonder is how to get rid of all the Microsoft stuff that's on there?
Cheers
Paul G
p.s.
If I could remove the unwanted stuff with a thermit lance and weld the new stuff in then no problem. 
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serieslandy
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 10:04 PM |
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Can you not download on the mac and stick it on a flash drive?
Other than that I have no idea how to get it to install Linux.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 10:09 PM |
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Paul,
Did you find out whether your machine has a CD-ROM or a DVD? The reason I ask is that the disk you can buy is a DVD, which is not much use if you
can't load it. Anyway - I can make you a DVD, no trouble - I've done it often enough (I might even have a disk from a slightly earlier
release that you can play with).
Otherwise you have to put it on a USB memory stick, which (a) has to be big enough, and (b) you have to be able to boot the machine from that drive.
Easy on modern machines, but may not be on older ones.
One afterthought - do you still have the Vista disks that came with your machine? Maybe a system reload might fix the problems.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 7/1/16 at 11:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
The reason I described it in my first post as "old, but hardly used" is because it's the worlds slowest lap top.
It takes a good 7 or 8 minutes just to switch it on. The little blue ring revolving icon does more revs than my Lotus engine.
Several years ago I bought a Mini Mac and it just sits on the desk, 24hrs a day, doesn't update, doesn't crash, in fact the only
time I have to touch it is with internet (BT) probs or power cuts.
Fujitsu Siemens machine running vista (and by the sounds of it a fairly low spec one sr that) would be enough to put anyone off PC's for
life.....
My win7 machines have all been very stable and pretty quick too, just done a fresh install of win7 on the oldest one using a solid state drive instead
of a hard disk - now it boots up in 20 second from off or about 1 second from sleep mode
Is there anything special this old machine has that you need (like a real serial port for example) or is it just a cheap windows machine that you
need?
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907
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 10:21 AM |
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All I wish to do is to use the screen of the lappy as the display for the borescope / endoscope that I bought.
If I go to [ start ] [ computer ] it says its a DVD RW Drive (F)
Pic of mini disc in drive, + scope
 
Description
The lappy does say connected, but if I click on any internet site it comes up can't connect to the internet.
 
Description
Paul G
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 11:41 AM |
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Try plugging it directly into your broadband router with a network cable - that way you can quickly work out if its just a WiFi issue or not
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 01:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 907
All I wish to do is to use the screen of the lappy as the display for the borescope / endoscope that I bought.
If I go to [ start ] [ computer ] it says its a DVD RW Drive (F)
Excellent! In that case I'll make a DVD for you - Probably Linux Mint. You can try it without installing it permanently; it will be a little
slow, but it will give you an idea whether you like it or not. It will be useful as we can try to connect to the internet from Linux... I've
NEVER had connection problems with Linux, and dozens of problems with Windoze.
Afterthought - is your machine 32-bit or 64-bit? "Control Panel" & "System" should tell you (names might be different - I
was looking at my Win10 machine!). If you don't know, I'll bring 2 disks and you can try both.
[Edited on 8/1/16 by David Jenkins]
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907
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 04:30 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by 907
All I wish to do is to use the screen of the lappy as the display for the borescope / endoscope that I bought.
If I go to [ start ] [ computer ] it says its a DVD RW Drive (F)
Excellent! In that case I'll make a DVD for you - Probably Linux Mint. You can try it without installing it permanently; it will be a little
slow, but it will give you an idea whether you like it or not. It will be useful as we can try to connect to the internet from Linux... I've
NEVER had connection problems with Linux, and dozens of problems with Windoze.
Afterthought - is your machine 32-bit or 64-bit? "Control Panel" & "System" should tell you (names might be different - I
was looking at my Win10 machine!). If you don't know, I'll bring 2 disks and you can try both.
[Edited on 8/1/16 by David Jenkins]
Hi David,
After following your prompts, (I'd have not found it without) it's a 32bit.
Actually it's more like a threepenny bit.
Cheers,
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 05:27 PM |
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I'll sort something out, and get back to you soon.
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907
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| posted on 8/1/16 at 06:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I'll sort something out, and get back to you soon.
Many thanks
Paul G
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907
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| posted on 12/1/16 at 06:48 AM |
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I am deeply indebted to David who has given up his time to sort my problem.
I'm told "we're almost there," and just need another 45 gallon drum of "midnight oil" to complete the
installation.
I have already seen the borescope camera in action, although we didn't have a suitable object to photograph but
I do now have some wonderful shots of chocolate chip cookies.
Many thanks,
Paul G
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 12/1/16 at 12:14 PM |
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No problem Paul.
After all, you've spent ages in the past doing "just a little welding job" for me, that actually took hours!
(and I've sorted the graphics problem - expect a U2U later on today...)
[Edited on 12/1/16 by David Jenkins]
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907
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| posted on 14/1/16 at 12:52 PM |
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Thanks to the technical wizardry of David all my bits are working.
Cheers
Paul G
sent from my lappy
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mcerd1
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| posted on 14/1/16 at 02:35 PM |
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I assume you gave up on vista and went with mint then ?
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nick205
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| posted on 14/1/16 at 02:38 PM |
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From where we sit supplying IT hardware to a variety of businesses, most seem to have skipped Vista and moved from XP to 7 and beyond. I've no
idea if Vista is supported, but it doesn't seem liked by businesses.
ETA...when my MS XP laptop died a few years ago I moved straight to W7. It is what it is. Most of the time it works, but now and then MS like to
mess about and update it.
[Edited on 14/1/16 by nick205]
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